like a whip saw because mueller is not stupid because of the pardon power that the president has that he is not enlisting the attorney general s office or the local prosecutors office with similar crimes. could be a prosecutor on the state level to bypass the president s power. give me an example. look what happened with michael cohen. he pleads guilty, next thing he s getting subpoenas for tax problems he may have for not paying. i m not saying that is going to go anywhere. with every joint investigation i led with the federal government, we had state crimes and federal crimes. the carrot always was, we ll let grow if you plead guilty to the federal crimes. if it gets tricky, here we are on the state side. it implicates manafort, cohen or anyone else who might be thinking i have the president in my pocket. trust me he has immunity, remember, as
a paraluz situation. keep in mind some of the charges he s facing are identical or at least related to the charges that rick gates is facing. so if gates felt that the evidence was so stacked against him that his best course of action was to plead guilty, then manafort may also go down that road, especially if gates testimony ultimately implicates manafort. beyond that, let s not forget that the sentences facing manafort are steep. potentially facing up to 30 years in prison. for a 70-year-old man that could mean spending his life behind bars. the pressure certainly mounting against paul manafort. still a question of whether or not he ultimately cooperates with the special counsel though, fred. then president trump s son-in-law, jared kushner, he still does not have full security clearance, now 13 months into the job. are the clearance issues somehow caught up in this mueller investigation? two sources have told cnn that jared kushner s security
so this is a pretty high standard. so that s why i say it you know, they have some evidence, and they re being very aggressive in going after it, and they re not hiding that fact at all. a short while ago, the norm the new york times report the some of the aggressive tactics special counsel robert mueller is using in his investigation. here s a part of what they said about the raid of manafort s home in july. they said, federal agents bearing a search warrant picked the lock on his front door and raided his virginia home. they took binders stuffed with documents and copied his computer files looking for evidence. mr. man afford, president trump s former campaign chairman set up secret offshore bank accounts. they even photographed the expensive suits in his closet. the special counsel robert s. mueller iii then followed the house search with a warning. his prosecutors told mr. manafort they plan to indict him, said two people close to the investigation. is he likely going to indi
answers. what we do have is further evidence that manafort is somebody who is a key piece of the puzzle, and he has a lot of different pressures on him right now, including a possible indictment. that could lead to him cooperating with the special counsel mueller and his team, which will inure to the benefit of the justice department but not the president of the united states if he s involved. we have a lot to talk about, everyone. so stay with me. when we come back, more bad news for the president. two trump lawyers spilling the beans about the russia investigation at a popular d.c. steakhouse overheard by a reporter for the new york times. talk about loose lips. plus hurricane maria, an extremely dangerous category 5 storm, hits dominica tonight. we ll show you where it s headed next. saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico. goin up the country. later, gary
all you can say is that two people said something. so we heard pam earlier say that some of the communications in question are between manafort himself and other people. obviously that s going to be more indicative. but some of the most potentially significant things might be what other people said about their communications with manafort. we always want investigators to go slowly, to not sort of get ahead of the evidence. so i really think that that is an indication that the current investigative team, you know, is being careful here. they don t want to jump to conclusions. they re saying there might be something here. what do you make of this not conclusive, laura? well, you re right that it s not conclusive. you can t really predict what all the charges, the scope of the investigation is. remember, mueller has a very special charge, and he s able to go through different rabbit holes with the consent of his authority. but the issue here more specifically is whether or not what th