trial in his federal election interference case, and for the very first time revealing a key case against donald trump. for months now, questions house world about how much donald trump s state of mind matters in this case. did he actually believe that the election was stolen from him, and prosecutors need to show that the ex president knew he had lost the election? well washington post is now reporting this. the justice department weighed in on thedete for the first ti saying that what they need to prove it is not that trump liev the big lie of the election being stolen, but that he knowinglyspread associated lies in a criminal scheme stay in power. so from the special counsel s filing,quot just as the president of a company may be guilty of fraudfor using knowingly false statements of facts to defraud investors, even if he subjectively believes that his company will entuly succeed, the defendant may be guilty of ing deceit to obstruct the government function by which the re
partly paid for. well washington post columnst you see down playing calling that 3.5 trillion dollar price tag misleading. joining us now with his reaction is fox news contradict tore joe concha what was misleading about that 3.5 trillion spending there? great question. [laughter] here s the deal. to use biden term, that s true it is not 3.5 trillion. it is misleading it is more leak 5.5 trillion, 6 trillion when you look at all of the gimmicks that are in there. in other words there are programs that are in place that are supposed to expire in two, three year an once you put a program in place once you give people something it is very hard to extract that from them. obamacare being an example right once the government gives you something then you can t say we re not going give it to you them. so to that that statement to be said on a show like reliable sources