investigations into the current president s family. ted lieu, democrat of california, set to orient facts as they exist on earth one. watch. let me ask you a series of basic questions to get facts out to the american people about our system of justice. trump adviser roger stone was convicted in a federal court, correct? that s my recollection. trump donor elliott brady was convicted in a federal court. correct? also my recollection. the attorney general at the time for those two convictions was bill barr, which president nominated bill barr for attorney general? president trump. you were the fbi director for all of those cases at the time. which president nominated you? president trump. okay. what these facts show is we don t have a two-tiered system of justice. we have one department of justice that goes after criminals regardless of party idealogy. all of these folks were convicted under the administrations of three separate republican attorneys general. i
accountability appears to be afoot here. i do want to double down on something that mary said in the last segment, and that is is the real-world consequences of these type of lies, of these this type of political rhetoric. this is not just isolated to this type of tucker carlson incident, i remember very well ruby freeman and shay moss and in in fulton county, georgia, who had to leave their homes and flee for their lives because of donald trump and his his supporters spreading lies and falsehoods. i also remember i was at the justice department at the time, in august of last year, where a trump supporter stormed tried to storm an fbi field office in ohio. this is a guy who was dressed, according to the indictment, dressed in body armor and had an ar-15. after a short standoff, he was
saying it seems more likely that it s a personal grievance. as ronnell says, the case now goes forward. i think it was already set up for that because it was ultimately in the decision of judge caplan, who is overseeing this with a stern hand. it s going go in january of 2024. he seems adamant about keeping it that way. he was really tough in the previous trial. and just on the damages point, there is a real possibility of punitive damages because trump has been recalcitrant. so he is all of the sudden quite exposed, and this case in particular we saw it play out before, but this would be even the more vivid example of the defamation. and it s not pretty for trump for sure. you know, ronnell, as someone who covered the entirety of the mueller probe, i remember trump s lawyers saying to me privately, and i think they went on tv and said it publicly that
heavyweight jurist michael luding in the fourth circuit. let s not forget that the reason chris wray is in this seat as fbi director is because donald trump appointed him to be fbi director. so this entire notion that christopher wray is somehow biased against conservatives when he himself is a conservative is just it literally makes no sense. i think what we saw today not just with this epps clip, but we saw the opposite of legitimate congressional oversight. congressional oversight is based on facts. the facts tell you where to go with congressional oversight. what we saw today was simple political posturing designed to create viral sensations that get republican congressman on fox news into mobilize an increasingly narrow base of
i wasn t able to listen to the entire many hours of the hearing, but that s what this should have been about. not not baseless attacks about the politicization of the fbi against conservatives. there s just no basis for it. let me show you, anthony, some of what christopher wray had to do in the vein of what frank and mary are talking about. there is some news on this instance, ray epps, trump supporter, at the capitol on january 6th, but he didn t do what tucker carlson and donald trump and others say he did which was to be there as an fbi agent. some sort of false flag operation. let me show you christopher wray s response to that conspiracy theory. i think tucker carlson and some of the members, colleagues said that ray epps was a secret government agency helping encourage this crime so as to make the president look bad. do you have any knowledge of ray