case and he did look at it and then closed it and only reopened it for a hot minute. you know when? after he met with rudy giuliani. but this is where, again, we have to look at the context here and we have to look at the full scope of what s going on. because when president trump and i would push back on asha to say president trump did task bill barr with this. he is tasking the resources of the official capacity of the united states of america bill barr says nobody ever told him to do it. well, but that s again, bill barr was tasked with that. and rudy giuliani as a private attorney to mount a full-throated vigorous defense for his client, which is donald j. trump, not the president of the united states he wasn t acting as a private attorney, though. he was working with the state department. exactly. he s acting in a private capacity but he s acting as a private he s acting as a private defense attorney. you can have a representation of a private attorney whil
say president trump did task bill barr with this. he is tasking the resources of the official capacity of the united states of america bill barr says nobody ever told him to do it. well, but that s again, bill barr was tasked with that. and rudy giuliani as a private attorney to mount a full-throated vigorous defense for his client, which is donald j. trump, not the president of the united states he wasn t acting as a private attorney, though. he was working with the state department. exactly. he s acting in a private capacity but he s acting as a private he s acting as a private defense attorney. you can have a representation of a private attorney while you are a federal office holder. you don t give up your rights to legal defense just because you are a federal officer but what legal defense? so that was during the context of the mueller probe. chris, can i get back no, i m out of time. i m out of time. i like the arguments. i appreciate the arguments.
there are two sets of lawyers. one is rudy giuliani, and giuliani has said i wasn t acting as a lawyer during a lot of this stuff. and he s obviously got emails and documents, text messages and the like, and it s going to be very hard for him to assert attorney-client privilege when he himself said i wasn t acting as a lawyer. so i do think the house of representatives is ultimately going to get automatic that stuff. there isn t going to be an effective privilege that giuliani is going to be able to assert over the bulk of it. then there are two other people, the geneva and toensing. and both of them, this is according to fox news yesterday, both of them actually declined to be trump s lawyer, and instead served as some sort of secret back office conduit for information or something like that. but they said we couldn t be his lawyer, according to the fox story, because we had a conflict of interest with other stuff involving trump. given that they re either, a, acting as a lawyer and d
this washington swamp has been covering up effectively for years. and his state department asked me to do this. so, mike, if you re unhappy with me, i m sorry, but i accomplished my mission. i have no idea if he s unhappy with me or not. i frankly don t care. i m the presidential lawyer. and he also said he wasn t acting as the lawyer, as the president s lawyer. what do you make of all this, what you re hearing from rudy giuliani. i actually think rudy giuliani is digging himself a deeper hole, and i do believe that he is the political henchman for the president, not an attorney, not a person that is working for the state department. he hasn t been vetted, he hasn t been hired. he is not a federal employee. what s happened here is that you have him saying one thing to foreign leaders and you have the state department saying
the attorney-client realm. rudy said i wasn t acting as his attorney. so he can t say that the conversations with the president are privileged. or the work is privileged. and now it s like rudy is going down a cliff and he s reaching up and he s grabbing the entire state department. yeah. and dragging it down the cliff with him saying, if i m going to fall, everybody s coming down with me. he definitely should get an award. that s the only explanation is that he s covering his rear end at that point. because i m watching that thinking, do you think that s better that the state department that mike pompeo and the state department directed you to have private meetings with sa saturday lens ski s aide and madrid and other places? that s not better. it s incredible if the goes in the category of we re going to release this category of the phone call we made because that s going to help us.