absolutely. i think we could divide conservatives into three groups. there s a small group part of a resistance. then there s a second category of people who let s go along with trump and see what we can get. maybe we can get a good supreme court pick, tax reform. and then there s the larger group, which are the rank and file conservatives and grassroots conservatives, and i think they have bought in on trumpism. you know, kellyanne conway yesterday said it wasn t going to be cpac. it s going to be tpac. they will tailor their message for that meeting, just like if you re speaking to a labor union, you might talk about jobs and the populist approach. if you re talking to a group of conservatives, normally, you might talk about ronald reagan or edmond burke or defending the right to life or free trade. donald trump didn t do that.
that s how it got started. this wasn t a casual conversation. this was a conversation about an ongoing investigation, coverage of an ongoing investigation. how often does the fbi say we don t comment on ongoing investigations? and it appears that, i dons know wh what the genesis of the conversation was but it appears that the chief of staff was trying to enlist the fbi knocking down a story about an ongoing investigation involving the president and his allies during the campaign, and that seems to me to be a very troubling area, and i do believe that had it been another administration, had there been a democratic president, this republican congress would be well down the road on hearings having seen this story. john, you also hear trump critics invoking republican outrage over the issue of bill clinton with loretta lynch on the plane.
he said he was getting the the next day he was getting a glock from his son and he was going to take out his colleagues at ft. detrick. people that had wronged him at ft. detrick. the fbi agents. and during this it wasn t a casual conversation. he was extremely angry and extremely rageful and he described it in detail. all the ammunition he had. he had bought a bulletproof vest. he had made a bulletproof vest. he had written a detailed plan on how to do it. reporter: with such specific threats, duley, who had been seeing ivans for six months says she called the police and took him to the hospital. later ivans was transferred to a baltimore psychiatric hospital. days after being released ivans killed himself.
and started talking about how he was not going to be indicted. he wasn t going to allow them to indict him on five counts of capital murder and not going to go out willingly and going to go out in a blaze of glory. he said he was getting the the next day he was getting a glock from his son and he was going to take out his colleagues at ft. deedrick. people that had wronged him. the fbi agents. and during this it wasn t a casual conversation. he was extremely angry and extremely rageful and he described it in detail. all the ammunition he had. he had bought a bulletproof vest. he had made a bulletproof vest. he had written a detailed plan
was not going to be indicted. he wasn t going to allow them to indict him on five counts of capital murder and not going to go out willingly and going to go out in a blaze of glory. he said he was getting the the next day he was getting a glock from his son and he was going to take out his colleagues at ft. detrick. people that had wronged him. at ft. detrick. the fbi agents. and during this it wasn t a casual conversation. he was extremely angry and extremely rageful and he described it in detail. all the ammunition he had. he had bought a bulletproof vest. he had made a bulletproof vest. he had written a detailed plan on how to do it. reporter: with such specific threats, duley, who had been seeing ivans for six months says