that's how it got started. >> this wasn't a casual conversation. this was a conversation about an ongoing investigation, coverage of an ongoing investigation. how often does the fbi say we don't comment on ongoing investigations? and it appears that, i dons know wh what the genesis of the conversation was but it appears that the chief of staff was trying to enlist the fbi knocking down a story about an ongoing investigation involving the president and his allies during the campaign, and that seems to me to be a very troubling area, and i do believe that had it been another administration, had there been a democratic president, this republican congress would be well down the road on hearings having seen this story. >> john, you also hear trump critics invoking republican outrage over the issue of bill clinton with loretta lynch on the plane.