is bullying who in this school? empower your children to stand up for them. drive to school tomorrow morning and be the one that intervenes. be the one that can save the lives of all these people. we saw the mother from minnesota. larry: kathy, you think this can change? if you re watching at home and you feel enraged and want to help, you can help. make a monetary donation welcome get a pamphlet, sign up for the trevor project or give a damn. you can see the bullies and see the more frail kids, too. say hi. talk to them and listen to them. wanda, you think it can change and get better? definitely. because we re having this conversation now and more people are talking about it so i think the awareness it s bully awareness week. it is. and i think until things get better, that we re i m going to continue to talk about it and we ll do our part. are you ant mystic, chely? i am. everyone should get the same
yes. larry: let s take a look at that. are there certain people in your unit that you feel like would be the type of person that would tend to out you and you kind of stay away from them? mm-hmm. i m more worried about the violence and possible gay bashing because there is so much just accepted hate because of like the whole policy. because i would become like really good friends with this one person and he wouldn t know that i was gay and when we were in our corps school just out of nowhere said i think we should hang gay people out in front of the trees so they know they re not welcome here. and i was like, what? wow. how do you respond to someone saying that to you? i couldn t say anything. i was that killed me. and we weren t on camera, he said he didn t use the expression gay person. larry: by the way, kathy s going to have a special announcement. it s coming up next. don t go away.
then? 13. yep. larry: did he tell you he was bullied at school? he only mentioned one incident that was a month before he died, and he said that that kid was gay as well, so he blew it off. that was the only time i ve heard about. larry: did you know he was tormented? no. he always was smiley, happy kid, had many friends, loved playing his cello. i had no idea. larry: why did he kill himself? i m guessing things added up. especially some of the things that i ve been hearing and one event in particular. and i don t know what was the last thing that day that made him go over to take the make that decision. but but it had to be pretty significant.
you know, those thoughts. larry: but they also teach, wanda, love the sinner, hate the sin. they don t teach that enough. you know. and it s they don t teach the love part. i ll put it that way. they don t teach the love part enough. and it s all driven on by fear. you know, it s i believe a lot of people like if it were my own family. you know, i believe that the big problem that my family had with me is that, you know, it s the superstition and it s the fear that if i accept you then i m accountable and then i m going to go to hell. which is it s crazy. larry: is it did you make a conscious decision, tim, to be gay? oh, certainly not, larry. as a matter of fact, growing up, i didn t really know who i was when it came to my sexuality. but i knew who i wasn t. and there just weren t a lot of positive role models for me
it s just crazy that he is he s in the church. and he said, you know, if gay people are in my church he asked them to leave. and here we hear exactly. and here we find out, you know, he s he s taking these young boys and flying around the country. and i can t believe that he s still in the pulpit. larry: is it your church? what was that? larry: it s your church? it s my church? no, no. larry: do you know people? do i know people who go to that church? i know people who are affiliated with that church. i know people who ve been to many churches who had priests who were hippocratic to them sorry. church in a big way. what message are we sending to the kids if he s still standing in the pulpit, you know, and the leader of the church? i mean, you re telling your kids that it doesn t matter if you speak up.