>> yes. >> larry: let's take a look at that. >> are there certain people in your unit that you feel like would be the type of person that would tend to out you and you kind of stay away from them? >> mm-hmm. >> i'm more worried about the violence and possible gay bashing because there is so much just accepted hate because of like the whole policy. because i would become like really good friends with this one person and he wouldn't know that i was gay and when we were in our corps school just out of nowhere said "i think we should hang gay people out in front of the trees so they know they're not welcome here." and i was like, what? >> wow. how do you respond to someone saying that to you? >> i couldn't say anything. i was -- that killed me. >> and we weren't on camera, he said he didn't use the expression "gay person." >> larry: by the way, kathy's going to have a special announcement. it's coming up next. don't go away.