we re now seeing military force used. if donald trump didn t want to escalate, he has to de-escalate and he has to do it with a real foreign policy. that would be a big shift. but it requires a president who has essentially moved out of this because president obama negotiated the nuclear deal to do some of what a u-turn to go back to that. i think it would require a level of, you know, willingness to admit that the original position has been wrong. he could say did i something barack obama couldn t do he has a better deal. he got missiles included, he could out diplomatic obama and for trump that would be tempting. that would be something he finds appealing. switching gears to climate change, the president saying he will not be at the climate change event instead holding the one on religious persecution which is seeing as i nod a nod
style has gone mainstream. and i think one of the great questions of the era is going to be who wants to be margaret chase smith? who wants to be joseph welch shall, the lawyer who said to mcarchthy finally have you no decency? and i promise you, there s a historical legacy, there s a historical halo ready to be grabbed if people will stand up and say, no more. yeah. you know, mika, there is, as john said, there is a suspension of belief. and we ve seen it even with some of our friends who will talk about how many miles of the wall donald trump has built when donald trump s own administration, when the statistics in donald trump s own administration show that zero miles of new wall have been built. that you can t tell them because there s a suspension of belief. because in speeches donald trump says oh, we build the wall so
is. i think the pros in the situation far outway the cons. you talk about american fading politics. yeah. you talk about an inside game, rigging the process. and we talked about how donald trump is rig the process on the republican side to make sure that as many states as possible cancel democratic elections for the primary. he mean, he s learned from vladimir putin the way you get 100% of the vote is you just cancel the elections. and that s what donald trump is getting republican operatives to do across the country. so he s rigging the election that way. he s using his power now to try to rig the election so a foreign power is pressured so actually try to dig up dirt on joe biden and his family. and to use the word that rudy giuliani used, and actions that most voters would consider to be very slimy, especially since every investigation has shown
justice, all kinds of ludicrous things. and here s another one. the law says shall? well, the president doesn t have to do it. and fingerprint they take that hin interpretation, joe, that s why i think this is going to result ultimately in a serious call for impeachment. because what they are saying is we don t even have to bother following a law of congress to protect whistle blowers and get information to the intelligence committees in the isn t like a law that says all of congress has got to see it, but just the intelligence committee. and trump s defense here is biden did stuff that s wrong. look, i was in two different tours in the justice department. the idea that if we thought that there was a serious allegation of someone in the government conspiring or something like that or engaged in corruption that we would send rudy giuliani to go and investigate that and try to drum up information is laughable. there s no way in the world you d send the president s private attorney to go
that an elizabeth warren victory in the democratic nomination fight would hurt senate candidates, might hurt house candidates in swing districts. what s your thought about the elizabeth warren campaign that you ve seen evolve over the past several months. well, my first thought is that there s something about democrats we re genetically predisposed to concern. and think so it s just the nature of our party. i think elizabeth warren can beat donald trump. i think elizabeth warren will not be a drag on the ticket in senate races that matter the most in places like colorado, arizona, and in maine which are three of our four top pickup opportunities. i think democrats need to let this race play out and i think we need to stop underestimating the enthusiasm that elizabeth warren brings to the table. she knows why she s running. this is the thing that i think i probably repeated on this show. if you ask elizabeth warren in