style has gone mainstream. and i think one of the great questions of the era is going to be who wants to be margaret chase smith? who wants to be joseph welch shall, the lawyer who said to mcarchthy finally have you no decency? and i promise you, there's a historical legacy, there's a historical halo ready to be grabbed if people will stand up and say, no more. >> yeah. you know, mika, there is, as john said, there is a suspension of belief. and we've seen it even with some of our friends who will talk about how many miles of the wall donald trump has built when donald trump's own administration, when the statistics in donald trump's own administration show that zero miles of new wall have been built. that you can't tell them because there's a suspension of belief. because in speeches donald trump says oh, we build the wall so