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taxing as they see fit. does that legitimacy argument matter? i don t think that matters. i m sure the five families of new york would say something equivalent. they are it is effectively taxation, that doesn t make it legitimate. they are still an illegitimate terror force and we need to be pushing them out of these areas. as tour e was mentioning even though isis has taken over ramadi, everything is going to be fine. here s what john kerry said yes yesterday. their communications have been reduced and funding and mechanical operations have been reduced and their movements by and large in most certainly where there are air patrols and other capacities have been reduced. but that s not everywhere. and so it is possible to have the kind of attack we ve seen in ramadi but i m absolutely confident in the days ahead that
maybe stop this type of behavior in the future. our children not assimilating into our culture and what does this trial mean for us and how can we learn as americans where to move forward and what signs and red flags to look for? we re seeing few more reports from winding down of this death verdict, tsarnaev reportedly sitting back in his chair looking towards the judge, remaining according to tom winter nbc reporter expressionless and the judge adregsing him saying mr. tsarnaev conducted himself with exposure and thanking the judge and press and jurors in the process and jurors are walking out for one last time. even if justice is served, as tour e was reporting with all of the tears in the room, it s a difficult outcome no matter what you think of it. yeah that s absolutely the case. we should keep in mind that this is a man dzhokhar tsarnaev, who wrote in his own blood a
two other counts, malicious destruction of property resulting in death and use of a firearm resulting in death. those are six different capital counts, tour e, let me go to you first. you think about the boston marathon bombing and look at the law here, i will say as a side note people think what they believe to be justice in this case. but second, this was a prosecution here that threw it is fair to say, everything at this individual defendant. that is why there are so many charges and that is why there s so much convictions and that s why we can now report this jury found six different capital crimes, six different reasons to sentence this individual to death. ronan farrow still outside the court. we want to bring you back into the conversation. this is happening in boston i grew up in boston and know boston extremely well. one of the things we talked about when we were talking about this day leading up to this day,
also a spike in security right now. we re seeing officers with sniffing dogs patrolling dogs right now, hearing many, many more aerial patrols and helicopters in the air. a tense moment here in boston. i think an understanding, tour e, that for many who wanted to see this chapter closed and new chapter open, this is anything but the end. we mentioned before how long it takes to execute individuals in the system. mcveigh, executed in 2003, since then 40 other death penalties imposed but not acted on. it remains to be seen when and if he ll actually be executed. it is very difficult to kill people in the federal system tour e. absolutely. we want to bring pete williams back in on how the question of how the appeals process will unfold. on what grounds is his defense team likely to appeal this verdict? reporter: well, i ll get to