also a spike in security right now. we re seeing officers with sniffing dogs patrolling dogs right now, hearing many, many more aerial patrols and helicopters in the air. a tense moment here in boston. i think an understanding, tour e, that for many who wanted to see this chapter closed and new chapter open, this is anything but the end. we mentioned before how long it takes to execute individuals in the system. mcveigh, executed in 2003, since then 40 other death penalties imposed but not acted on. it remains to be seen when and if he ll actually be executed. it is very difficult to kill people in the federal system tour e. absolutely. we want to bring pete williams back in on how the question of how the appeals process will unfold. on what grounds is his defense team likely to appeal this verdict? reporter: well, i ll get to