throughout this conversation. mike, boston has been on an emotional roller coaster through this situation. perhaps one of the greatest lows in boston history and some of the most powerful moments of rejuvenation, of civic rejuvenation throughout this. on this day, with this man sentenced to death, how is boston doing today? well, i think among residents, there s a sense of relief, that at least the trial is over. the jury has rendered its decision. i think there s probably division over whether he deserved the death penalty. this jury certainly felt he did, finding him responsible for the deaths of lindsay lui and martin richard. and the course where the bombings occurred, a number of people are talking high emotion there. in watertown where the shootout occurred, the boston marathon bombers and a few slides of bullets went and tamerlan ended
up dying. people there have breathed a sigh of relief. there are still bullet holes from the shootout there, in fact. mike, let me ask you. are you surprised at all by this verdict? as caleb and others have said, if you re ever going to have a death penalty, this seems like an appropriate case for it. yet we ve seen the polling bostonians, a majority of them did not think that tsarnaev did not receive the death penalty. so are you surprised by this outcome? i m a little surprised. because we ve done polls. the the boston globe has done polls showing the majority of people did not want the death penalty. i m not surprised by the jury s decision because they were so quick. i was thinking that 14 hours, if they came back quickly, it was going to be the death penalty. if it was longer, it was going to be life in prison. the prosecution made a very detailed presentation in this case complete with unbelievable witness testimony, forensic evidence, autopsy photos. the jurors cried on sev
i think the showing would have to be extraordinarily persuasive. if we were handicapping it, i would be doubtful that that would prevail. after the direct appeals process, we get into the stage of the proceedings that gives us probably the longest period of time and that would be what we would call the 2255, the collateral attack. where he could in theory, argue that he had ineffective assistance of counsel. that his lawyers were deficient in some respect. i would be hard-pressed to see how such an argument could prevail, given that he had arguably the best death penalty attorney in the nation and i certainly did not observe any major mistakes that she made in the case. but that is too separate sets of appeals. you can appeal the direct rulings of the trial, and you can appeal constitutional deficiencies on the part of your
as to the question of the appeals, there has to be an appeal. that s the way the federal law works. if there s a death sentence in the federal system, there s a mandatory appeal. and i m sure the dweps will have lots of objections to things the court wouldn t allow but i expect at the top of the list would be the venue issue. they had gone to court four separate times to get this trial moved out of boston. they in essence argued that boston was the victim of this bombing the entire city, that everybody knew somebody who was somehow affected by the bombing and that therefore wasn t possible to find a jury that was truly objective and that by the time he went through this long selection process, you got a jury that wasn t representative of the community. that will be a big argument. then after that mandatory appeal is over, which will take two or three years then there will be subsequent appeals that the lawyers can file.
maybe stop this type of behavior in the future. our children not assimilating into our culture and what does this trial mean for us and how can we learn as americans where to move forward and what signs and red flags to look for? we re seeing few more reports from winding down of this death verdict, tsarnaev reportedly sitting back in his chair looking towards the judge, remaining according to tom winter nbc reporter expressionless and the judge adregsing him saying mr. tsarnaev conducted himself with exposure and thanking the judge and press and jurors in the process and jurors are walking out for one last time. even if justice is served, as tour e was reporting with all of the tears in the room, it s a difficult outcome no matter what you think of it. yeah that s absolutely the case. we should keep in mind that this is a man dzhokhar tsarnaev, who wrote in his own blood a