problem between an an administration saying this is now a policy that s authorized and then those that have to execute that policy. because at the end of the day, the individuals who are involved in torture, involved in some form of let s call it waterboarding. there s a defense between torture and waterboarding. i don t want to lump it all together. the problem is the individuals that would do that would then be potentially held legally liable for those actions that they performed. separate from the organization or the agency they re a part of. they wouldn t be wrapped and protected in any type of legal protection as a result of their actions. so you might have an administration that says, we re going to do it. have you the guys on the ground saying, we re not going there. bob, you were in the cia. what kind of response do you think we d see from the intelligence community if these kind of torture tactics were in play or waterboarding was in play, whether that was to be readopted?
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without that background knowledge you cannot begin to do questioning or interrogation. i find it completely offensive that these guys got $81 million for doing what? they had never questioned anybody. this is just a catastrophe when you look at it. there is no acceptable reason that these two guys should have been hired, none. and to build on that, one thing that i will say and i want to bring in those that are fighting back against that, pushing back against this say you have to understand the context. yo vuto understand that in the immediate after math of 9/11 things were different. you were right across from the south tower when it fell north tower. i was here. i just moved to new york five days before. this was a traumatic time. listening to this, can you respond to your thoughts on the fact that not only the torture tactics but the fact that the cia contracted out contract to people with seemingly no experience to oversee this. the only thing i can think
have the capacity to go in and capture a terrorist who is actively plotting to attack u.s. interests or allied interests, then our options are, and the host country has no capacity to get him, then we either ignore the fact that we re capable of eliminating him or we take the shot. there s no question that there are risks associated with taking a shot. there are sometimes civilian casualties. but i think again, the legal reasoning behind that is stronger than the reasoning behind torture. of course you remember that the c.i.a. says they were waterboarding people because they, there was the possibility of an imminent attack and they had to get information out of khalid sheikh mohammed or abu za pa zubaydah, to prevent these attacks. the rationale for the drone program sounds like the same raegsale that the c.i.a. was using with the torture tactics and maybe we re umaking the sam
hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i m zain asher. and i m errol barnett. thanks for joining pus .the top stories right now, the cia director admits some agents went rogue in their use of torture tactics on detainee, but he still stood by the program. reaction ahead from his former counterpart and the u.n. official who wants to see cia officials in handcuffs. yeah. plus u.s. lawmakers manage to paz a $1 trillion spending bill just in time to avoid a government shutdown we ll skr a look at what s inside. and coming up later, a dire warning about so-called super bugs. why researchers are saying drug resistant bacteria can kill more people than cancer and cost the global economy a fortune. we want to start now with a