that they shouldn t be distracted by efforts by their attorneys to fiost the blame for these delays off on other things. we know that the techniques that were used by me and dr. justin and other cia interrogators weren t torture they were looked into two years in front of a career prosecutor under the hostile to the interrogation program obama justice indictment andepartment, nocase. try to recreate history but the falls directly on eric holder and barack obama. because what khalid sheikh mohammed did was he confessed to these crimes in open court and then barack obama and eric holder because they wanted to take narcissist credit for prosecuting them set aside those confessions and dropped all charges against
to khalid sheikh mohammed they were using techniques that weren t torture but they were definitely uncomfortable. like i said, they got him out of his comfort zone. lost last night, megyn kelley sat down with james mitchell who says waterboarding isn t what broke 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed. what was it that finally broke khalid sheikh mohammed. we felt that waterboarding wasn t particularly effective on him. it was not? it was not. so how did you get him to the point where he wound up providing what we re told is very useful information? the other eit, i don t really want to say which ones they were. mitchell also described how the release of the report by the senate democrats has him fearing for his life. how many times in your life have you had a law enforcement official call you up in the middle of the day and say, leave your house immediately.
cia director mike morell sounded the alarm about a possible threat in the homeland in the coming year. we re going to see this kind of terrorism around the world. and we are going to see it here, nora. we are going to see this kind of attack here. and we need to be prepared for that. it shouldn t surprise people when this happens here some time over the next year or so. guarantee. and meanwhile this news comes after more fallout over the weekend regarding the senate intel report on the cia s enhanced interrogation techniques. now, former vice president dick cheney he continued his criticism of the democratic-led panel s findings. watch this. torture to me, chuck, is an american citizen on a cell phone making his last call to his four young daughters shortly before he burns to death in the upper levels of the trade center in new york city on 9/11. there s this notion that somehow
there s moral equivalence between what the terrorists did and what we do and that s absolutely not true. we were very careful to stop short of torture. the senate has seen fit to label their report torture, but we worked hard to stay short of that definition. now, the former vice president is not alone. supreme court justice scalia also defended the cia in an interview with a swiss radio station last week. i think it is very facile for people to say, oh, torture is terrible. you pause it, the situation where a person that you know, for sure, knows the location of a nuclear bomb that has been planted in los angeles. and will kill millions of people. you think it s an easy question? you think it s clear that you cannot use extreme measures to get that information out of that person? i don t think that s so clear at all. here with reaction is human
torturers let me ask you a specific question. answer. scalia s resorting to the ticking time bomb scenario. but that s not what happened. let s look at abu zubaydah. they held him hostage you may have your talking points, but you re sitting here in this morally superior way i m just following the law. the law says torture s a crime. i got that. but the justice department at the time ruled enhanced interrogation is not torture. my question to you is if there s somebody of knowledge of a nuclear weapon about to go off in a major city which is not that farfetched, i don t think, do you have any limits to extract that information? sean, that situation has never come up if it does come up sean [ overlapping speakers ] look at the real world.