this website says free credit scores . oh. credit karma! yeah, it s really free. look, you don t even have to put in your credit card information. what?! credit karma. really free credit scores. really. free. i could talk to you all day. now that we re talking about what we do in times of war, the questions are getting harder and harder. for example, insiders call it death by video game. now many former c.i.a. officials are under fire over torture tactics that happened during bush. but what about president obama s drone strikes? does that program deserve the same kind of scrutiny and rejection? morally, legally, it is killing people from a distance, with civilian casualties and it certainly happens. so is that better or different than torture? let s bring in jeffrey tuben, senior cnn loyal analyst and former federal prosecutor and mr. clark kent irvin, former
because it undermines morale at the c.i.a. and puts into question the ethics of a whole generation of c.i.a. officers. with whom brennan worked. but i think it s incredibly important, that we need to open this chapter in history and make it clear what happened, so that these kinds of activities aren t repeated. i think the senate report is filled with details that demonstrate that eits, enhanced interrogation techniques did not work, were not necessarily and that most if not all of the valuable intelligence that our interrogators gleaned in the hunt for bin laden and in thwarting attacks, came from other methods that weren t torture. jay, in all of the hue and cry about the torture tactics that have now been confirmed by this senate report, there s another cold front that is beginning and critics say there s an equally unethical practice happening right now. and that is the obama administration s drone program. even former c.i.a. officials say
how can we be so outraged over the so-called torture tactics when we re killing people, often civilians, with the flick of a switch from the sky. here is jose rodriguez, he s the former head of the c.i.a. clandestine services on this topic. listen. this administration actually does not take any prisoners. they prefer to kill them from afar using drones. and somehow they feel that because they kill from a distance, somehow it s more ethical. more ethical than the difficult and messy and unpleasant task and mission of actually interrogating prisoners. jay, what about that? is it more ethical to kill people from the sky rather than the torture tactics we ve seen? these are definitely profound questions, i think the legal structure around the drone program is a lot more sound than
it s that degree of cynicism, that degree that s driving congress. strengthening boehner s hand to try to form coalitions. i understand why progressives in two parties were angry at the wall street provisions, frankly everyone should have been. the guys that put it in there should be ashamed of themselves, you re seeing a more assertive progressive left that will be one of the more hallmarks of the coming congress and the daylight in the breaks. very unusual press conference out. c.i.a., what did you think as you listened to john brennan try to justify the decisions on the torture tactics. it s not easy to listen to any of these justifications. the larger question here and part of the problem is that you had what some say was a pretty partisan report come down. dianne feinstein did the press conference after the report.
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