intended to intimidate lawmakers. if we have to, we re going to go to homes and let them know what we think about them. there were multiple protests. i don t remember the exact number, three at least outside either my district office or my home. you re correct. my then 15-year-old son was home by himself for the first one. all of my personal information was online. it was my personal email, my personal cell phone, my home phone number. in fact, we had to disconnect our home phone for about three days because it would ring all hours of the night, would fill up with messages. brian butt cutler, we re outside. outlining pressure from trump aides and the ex-president himself to peddle the big lie even as team trump admitted they didn t have any evidence. he said we ve got lots of theories, we just don t have the evidence. and i don t know if that was a gaff. maybe he didn t think through what he said. both myself and others in my group and my counsel both remembered tha
deputized everybody that works on it for him. at some point you have to get off the ship. it s very clear who donald trump was from day one. all of us in the republican party knew who he was. so many people didn t want him to get the nomination, certainly didn t think he would get elected. when he did, just willingly walked along with it. i think the violence here is really the crux of all of it. my friend alex vindman says there are so many people still silent because the intimidation actually works. we ve seen this before in democratic societies, political intimidation leading to political violence, god forbid leading to political assassination. we saw it in germany before the rise of hitler. we saw similar behavior happening founded on, guess what, on a big lie, on a big political lie that led to that type of violence. i worry, especially, about the republicans retaking the house and the senate in the fall and potentially the return of donald
physical. i love your reflections on that as a term, whether you think it s fair or accurate. but the committee tied donald trump to the violence eked out and threatened against all of today s witnesses. does the committee have the evidence to tie donald trump to the violence carried out by the proud boys and the oath keepers on january 6th? gosh, nicole, i d love to answer that. i can t. i want to let the committee do that. i will say this, though, with what they have, i think people will be impressed by what they re going to present over the next few hearings. i think when you re talking about domestic terrorism, what you just mentioned, this is a domestic terrorism investigation on what happened on january 6th. when you see the multiple acts of violence, which they showed today, and other states and commonwealths, that is also part of this whole plan of trying to show that this was happening in multiple levels, multiple layers, by multiple individuals. and actually, in multiple
i wonder if, in your view, we re taking the right thing, evidence proved, box checked, trump lost and he knew it, trump knew what he asked mike pence to do was illegal, box checked. today, he knew that there were threats of violence against these officials, even pursued the plan anyway. the testimony of rusty bowers involves multiple phone calls from donald trump. i mean, it seems to be the committee s mission to put donald trump not just at the center of the conspiracy but on top of it. well, when you have that many people involved, the committee has to blend so many different things. you re right, nicole, they had to start with the timeline. i think you noticed in the first hearing, they started with the timeline, based on the video, in certain types of hearing to set up the next hearing. what they re doing is building the case and it looks like a massive command briefing that i used to do in the intelligence community where you would have the bluff, the bottom line up front, tell
decide they don t even want to show up. miles, i want to come to you on these questions of violence. normalize isn t strong enough, this is being operationalized on the right, this tactic of mob protests. i wanted to play the sound bite how horrific it is. as jason said, we should protect everybody. frankly, if we healed the sickness of our politics, there couldn t be incitements to violence. donald trump s incitements to violence are on going. the thursday of the first public hearing he described the insurrection as the greatest moment in the maga movement. not only has he not condemned any of the acts of his supporters, he continues to be enthusiastic about that. yeah. what did he say the day of, nicolle? we love you and remember this day forever, something along those lines.