is what s happening overseas, how much, where, what authorization, what legal basis. but it is nice to see a real filibuster and it is nice to and it just illustrates some of the divisions in the republican party. social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, isolationists, neocons, and strong executive branch conservatives like george w. bush versus get the government out of my business conservatives like rand paul. i really disagree. he did ask an important question and that is are there limits to executive power under our current war situation domestically. he got the wrong answer, an kwif cal answer from the white house. he doesn t know. he got a firm answer after he did this. but for sure i think rand paul arrived as a national figure. congresswoman, i just want to change it slightly before i let all of us go here, which is ashley judd. there s news this morning that she wants to run in kentucky to
very formidable candidate. what about rand paul? i mean so much praise really, bipartisan praise for rand paul as really beginning something of a more youthful, grassroots conservative movement that could run end up being a run in 2016? well, it was fun to watch the filibuster. i thought he was filibustering about the wrong question, that he was fill i bustering about the notion that we could be sitting here and drones could rain down on us from the sky. that s not the real question about drones. the real question about drones is what s happening overseas, how much, where, what authorization, what legal basis. but it is nice to see a real filibuster, and it is nice to and it just illustrates some of the divisions in the republican party. social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, isolationists, neocons, and strong executive branch conservatives like george w. bush versus get the government out of my business conservatives like rand paul.
ended up with a trillion dollars at the end of the decade, with the help of newt gingrich and the republicans i might add. bill clinton is a pretty good model whereby partisan approach gave us fiscal conservatives and surplus that s an important message to republicans to embrace. laura: i think lanny touched on interesting point. bill clinton understood at some point he had to actually work with the politics as it faced him. right? the republicans on the hill. he actually had to work with them. now we have reports that president obama hasn t spoken to republic leadership in a real way in about a year. and pretty much isn t talking all that often to democrats either. it seems like is he just going forward campaigning, raising money doing his own unilateral moves but not working for that financial consensus that i think president clinton did. well, yeah, it wasn t just that bill clinton was willing to talk to them. i think he was actually to meet in the middle and even sometimes come
here is paul ryan a little bit more than a year ago presenting his budget. take a listen. instead of taking 20 cents out of every dollar made in america to pay for the federal government, my children will have to take 40 cents out of every dollar. that means double the tax burten. that means a diminished future. the president is basically saying those people in congress who want to keep this government size relative to where it has historically been, who want to keep it, who want to keep it basically limited, are crazy. gregg: look, ford, ryan may energize the base, fiscal conservatives, tea partiers, but, what about those all important independent and swing voters? does he attract them, or, alienate them? well, look in his congressional district, i mean he is able to swing voters, both sides of the aisle into his favor. i think what the ryan vp choice sends is a clear message to independents that mitt romney is serious about
suggesting it say possibility that the gop would disenfranchise or new crop of fiscal conservatives and independence. heaven forbid we see that. or yes, there is a possibility of a third party rising. but that is only if the gop power players. let s hope that doesn t happen. 2010 election. we saw a new way of conservatives coming in to congress. can what do you say? it is on the flip side. they have stood so strong like alen west and others who say i will not be coopted by the power players and the gop machine that want a controlling hand over the gop