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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:28:00

potential plots under discussion were literally unlawful, and whether or not they were crimes, well, when asked about some of them later, he just pled the fifth. we can t count slates of electors that were illegally certified. if you or i were to submit a bank application that had that misrepresentation on it, we would be in prison. i assert my fifth amendment right to be a witness against myself. fifth. fifth. it went on and on like that, that s a lawyer who went well past giuliani, from what we know publicly. and you see him on your screen. a lawyer being searched by the fbi. his phone seized. he had to testify in georgia. he is one. lawyers who had to cross the line to do what trump wanted and his fate on the coup remains outstanding. those are senior lawyers on team

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 23:08:00

it was also clear he was not going to go peacefully and some long-time trump supporter refused to join team coup, whether you re talking about mike pence, members of congress, people in public. carlson thought he might be able to do that. he texted trump and his lawyers have so discredited their own case, it s infuriating. absolutely enrages me. that final straw is what leads into the quote i led with admitting what a disaster trump has been for the last four years is too hard to digest. there really isn t an up side to trump. remember, this case that we keep hearing about, it boils down to whether fox hosts knowingly lied and pushed trump s lies.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 21:11:00

who was saying what around trump. no. it s who was in charge. who was driving this. was this a rogue operation, or was it the plan all along? it is clear that team coup was driving things after trump was declared the loser of the election, which is damning for him. whatever anyone thinks of mr. navaro, it is telling that the man who admits his coup plan is the only person trump cites by name in his very first announcement of the january 6th gathering, which infamously became the insurrection. trump citing navaro s claims of voter fraud. the fake fraud, the elector plot, and january 6th sabotage were all linked. and that s where this investigation has proven useful, as we make sense of and sift through this brand new report

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