they were willing to murder him, had they gotten him or nancy pelosi. so i wonder what, i mean there s a reason he wants that pardon, he understands, he actually stood on the ellipse, and helped ramp up that crowd, that he maybe knew was the backstop for the coup leaders who were doing all of the recon, could he be in that type of criminal exposure for potentially threatening pence s life, putting pence in morale danger. there is a decision conspiracy case and how high does it go and prosecutors charge all the time, like in rico and i think the reason would swrooe to keep an eye on team coup because there are people who could be a member of team coup and not support violence and as rachel pointing out to be precise, not everyone in the government might be pulled into actions that support the coup or to put it legally obstruction of the government proceedings on the 6th but
conspiracy case, and the question is, how high does it go? and the like in rico, where you are a part of it. right. in aspect the reason why we have to keep it on team coup, is that there could be a member who could be a member to be precise, not necessarily everyone in the government who might be pulled into actions that support the coup or, to put it illegally, obstruction of the government on the sixth. but didn t sign on from other things. we ve interviewed people who say, i was, this not that. i stopped here, not there. bill barr did a ton of shady lawyer-ing at the doj. we even have john eastman, in writing, saying that if it s marshall, all is not gonna have anything to deal with [inaudible] it s like he can t seize the voting machine. amazing red lines. well, i think rachel, are they redlines?
team reasonable self interest, versus team coup, team gangster. and if there is a coup going, and there is people in the streets, and they re chanting about assassination and they are armed and they have blueprints and they have recon. yes, it is understandable that yes, people high up in government will start to look around and go, wait are you team lawful or team to? and people died that day, people died days after, as we know. so, it s very understandable thing to double check that. at a minimum, it could be way worse. [inaudible] it s very bizarre. i travel all over the world and all over the country. it s very bizarre to look at one agent and say, i trust you but not that guy. they work as teams. the presidential and vice presidential car is called a beast, because it weighs so much and they fly in when they travel overseas. and for any president or vice president to look at one agent and say, i trust you, but i m not getting in the car. it s unheard of. the vice president als
truth tellers who are being purged one after another. not in georgia, but in south carolina but that s before hold on, charlie. that s before the hearings. it s deeply ingrained. and i think what you mentioned david mccormack, when you have someone who has a different path, can make different choices, and one after another what they are doing is they are falling in line. and they tell themselves they are team normal, but what they do is they enable team coup, team crazy. and i don t see that changing. and the fact is once you have internalized and normalized this level of lying, of alternative reality, it s hard to know how you come back to it. whether or not people ever actually believe in the legitimacy of our elections again. and maybe, we ve already passed that point of no return on that. i don t know. let s be clear the republican party, the electorate, made it very clear
and he sees it in terms of a television broadcasting. and he knows that mic got through. otherwise, he would not be demanding equal time. so that s kind of an admission that he thinks this is working. but your question, we kind of have a split screen. we have the big life being discredited in washington, d.c.. and you look at what s happening in the hearing, i mean, and the primary is about the country, where you have the truth tellers who are being barraged one after another. not in georgia, but in south carolina the election deniers hold on, charlie. that s before the here. hearing. it s deeply ingrained. and i think what you mentioned, david mccormack, between you have someone who, you know has a different path, can make different choices, and one after another what they re doing is they re falling in line. and they tell themselves they are team normal, but what they do is they enable team coup, team crazy. and i don t see that changing. and the fact is once you have inter