the big lie was also a big rip off. he lied to his supporters and the country. corruptly pressured state legislatures and election officials to change election results. he lost. but he betrayed the trust of american people. the people had voted him out. and the courts upheld the will of the people. his staff insisted that president trump call off the attack. he would not. no. you didn t get to see the president without an appointment. we did. our investigation goes forward. we continue to receive new information. he must be accountable. we must seek the testimony under oath. he is required to answer for his actions.
and they are serious minded. i don t think we can make an evaluation yet until we see where they end up, what charges or who they go after. it would be a pity if they get the mob lieutenants and not the mob boss. the committee has made clear in this report that this was donald trump s doing. he made it move. he directed people. he could have said no at any point in time. it was his operation, his team. people who did illegally things in pursuit of that, they should be brought to justice. i hope that that happens, that the ringleader faces we have to go. they tell me we have to go. that wasn t a fake question. david, we appreciate you, which is why we booked you as we do special coverage. we have to go. we will bring you back.
at work. not someone who has checked out or sloppy. not sloppy when it comes to overthrowing the government and trying to keep his culpability and evidence limited. that was the 27th, what i just showed you, that tweet, saying hey, i mean it, really come to washington. the new report says that was also the day trump met with his son, donald trump, jr., and his son s wife, who were planning the rally with an organizer. and then they had a series of calls with senior white house staff, and trump had dinner with roger stone, to also discuss january 6th and how he would speak or what he would do. now, again, i m going to keep it real with you. why did this level of detail matter? on any busy news night when we go into this detail, say after one of the hearings, maybe not. we might not fixate on the level
last five plus years have shown many different ways that he s lost. many people who have stood up to this. but you know what he found that he could move? not judges. not fbi directors. not most of the democrats who fought him and who won more votes than him two elections in a row. no. the people he couldn t move with these amoral tactics were not all, but many elected republican politicians. that s the raw, recent history that s vital to understand this report, and the doj would have to use it if they tell this story in an illegal setting. because that is why the otherwise seemingly impossible coup plan becomes more explainable as plausible to trump. why do we talk about this mindset? whether you like it or not, that s how the criminal law works. somebody gets in a car accident
second, we re going to return to how this was plotted in more detail later in our program. it s in the second special report next hour 5:00 p.m. eastern. for the purposes of the report highlights right now, these three lawyers thought if they kept saying alternate elector instead of fraudulent elector, they would be in the clear. here is mr. epstein when i interviewed him on the beat. i was part of the process to make sure there were electors for when the challenge of the seat of electors would be heard and successful. everything that was done, was done legally by the trump legal team according to the rules, and under the leadership of rudy giuliani. was everything done legally or illegally? that s the question. that s why this all matters and it matters tonight and it s going to matter next year.