you hear him say don jr. he might not even be talking to donald jr., he may be saying don jr. is going to come here, isn t going to come here. yes, so what. what does any of that have to do with hush money for the playboy model? he was doctoring tapes. he doctored at the word check he cut the tape off. that s called doctoring a tape. or maybe the tape turned off or tape record yeah right, just turned off and turned back on. that s where it ends. it does not end on the word they at least said good-bye. didn t end on the word check. this is getting to be a silly conversation. it is getting to be a silly conversation. let s talk about the larger issue. in the southern district of new york, if the subject of an investigation were loudly criticizing the investigation, were tweeting about it, was calling witnesses names, would you think this subject of that investigation was getting a little bit nervous?
but in a deposition, i think a small amount a long time ago, he said, like in the $8 million range. back famously when the art of the deal first came out he spoke about truthful hyperbole, his willingness to ekts acknowledge rate about almost anything that came into his realm, people he had met, how much money he had, how successful he was. and he never we had decades now of trump frequently lying or exaggerati about a wide range of things reporr: including about secretly recording conversations, which he told o brien he did. in the deposition trump said i m not equipped to tape record. i figured the only way i could make him write what i was actually saying was at least have him think he was being tape recorded. back with me, former independent counsel robert ray and special correspondent jamie gangel. where is stephen colbert where you need him and the phrase
question. mr. trump, did you ever tell him you were tape recording conversations with him. trump, i m not equipped to tape record. i may have said it once or twice to him to just to on the delph because everything i said to him, he d write incorrectly. so just to try and keep it honest. i don t remember that, but i may have said to him i want to tape this conversation. question, i want to tape or you were taping? trump, i think i might have said i want to tape. i m not equipped to tape. i m not set up to tad-record conversations on telephones but i may have said to him i think i said i want to tape this conversation, as opposed to but i m not sure that i did say it to him. but i knew he was so sick, he was such a degenerate in the way he wrote. a very dishonest person. the only way i could have him know what i was saying is to
conversations with him? trump, i m not equipped to tape record. i may have said it once or twice to him to just to on the delph telephone because everything i said to him, he d write incorrectly. so just to try and keep it honest. i don t remember that, but i may have said to him i want to tape this conversation. question, i want to tape or you were taping? trump, i think i might have said i want to tape. i m not equipped to tape. i m not set up to tape-record conversations on telephones but i may have said to him i think i said i want to tape this conversation, as opposed to but i m not sure that i did say it to him. but i knew he was so sick, he was such a degenerate in the way he wrote. and he s just a very dishonest person. the only way i could have him know what i was saying is to have him think that he was being tape-recorded. end quote. that was donald trump a decade ago in 2007, he was still just a new york real estate guy. and at the time of that
he would drop it in at the end. and i would be in his office and he would say i might have to start the tape recording system. let s go to the under oath deposition in your case. and i m so glad that he sued you. i know you re jealous. i m very jealous. i wanted him to sue me so i would have one of these depositions. here is donald trump under oath. i figured the only way i could make him write what i was saying was to have him at least think that he was being tape recorded. so you believe you may have told him? donald trump, i may have told him. i don t remember, but i may have told him. question, that you were tape recording him? donald trump that s right, i remember something very vaguely in my mind hoping he would write honestly what i said. question, and that was not true? you were not tape recording him? donald trump, i was not. i m not equipped to tape record. so we have been here before. what was your reaction when you saw the first tweet from trump about hey, comey b