pretty clear now that it is an investigation in search of a crime because the very thing the trump campaign was investigated for, we know it was them feeding it to the top levels of the fbi. general counsel of the fbi. maria: wow! have you spoken with robert mueller in any way? are you calling for the investigation to be shut down as a result of what you just said? i do not want the investigation to be shut down. what i want the investigation to do is determine who linked the flynn conversation. delete general flynn s conversations? i want them to investigate that. i want them to say who was behind fusion gps. he was fusion gps talking to? what russians were they talking to? who was christopher steele talking to? i want to know all of the russians that fusion gps interviewed, got information from, funneled into the democratic party.
it. for not keeping up the guard of his country. it s not obama s fault. it s the people who work for him. martha: the president said clearly back then that he wasn t worried that there would be any impact from anything like that on united states elections he called them full proof. you have a lot of critics jumping all over you for what you said yesterday morning on meet the press. here is a little reminder. and when you tell me that you know, he should testify because is he going to tell the truth and shouldn t worry, that s so silly because if somebody s version of the truth, not the truth. he didn t have a conversation. martha: you went on to say that truth is not truth in the end of that sound bite. what did you mean by that? very simple. and you have to play the rest of it. i m talking about this particular situation. one person says the flynn conversation took place. the other person says the flynn conversation didn t take place. what s the truth? you tell me you how you
they decide to go with their witness, my client s going to get indicted or charged with perjury in some way. one example giuliani pointed to has to do with former national security advisor michael flynn and former fbi direction director james comey. comey claims president trump told him he should just let the investigation into flynn go. the president could testify, if asked, that the conversation about flynn did not take place. if he were to testify to that, even though comey has a prior statement under oath similar to the president s, that there was no obstruction, no statement of obstruction, they could charge him with perjury. it s in their discretion to do that. denying the flynn conversation seems to be a new claim from the president s legal team. it s not what giuliani said to abc just last month. what he said to him was can you [inaudible]. all of this as the special counsel seems to be focusing on
record a conversation that appears with don jr. might have gotten that too and erased that. you ve spoken to donald trum much what s the part erased? i have no idea. does donald trump remember? no, i m going to tell you you had a conversation i don t think we have the date for that. you had a conversation with him and taping it and you didn t know it. i would think it would be a memorable one really? in the middle of a playboy model. be fair, they weren t talking about the playboy model. i m not even this is what the whole conversation was about. no, it was not, paying $150,000. you are confusing this to the second conversation is clearly about another subject. it may not even what second conversation? on the tape. he ends the conversation with the word check from the president, check. for 120? let me finish. then about three seconds later,
way and they ve gotten it in other way. him tweeting him talking did. just so in layman s terms so i understand, you re saying one of your conditions is he won t answer questions about obstruction of justice? it is not yes. but maybe if they can show us one or two there we can consider. one or two what? one or two questions. fair enough. our real concern about that is that they are going to set up a perjury trap. the president flynn conversation, the president says it didn t took place and comey said it took place. if it took place, i could live with that. you could say that the president wasn t obstructing, just saying be good to him, go easy on him. i had that happen a lot of time as a prosecutor. shouldn t obstruct an investigation and didn t. however the president didn t say it and it s far easier to charge perjury than it is to go through the con torted obstruction argument. how many days was wag it that