ainsley: a felony. exactly correct. there is a request that can be a crime. if she knows that the conversation is not about national security and she gets the unmasking. ainsley: she is just going to say i thought i m just checking to see if it is about national security. the fbi will be able to confirm whether or not i m just check something rational. remember, she is not an investigator. she is not an fbi agent. she is not in the business of investigating what s going on. ainsley: is it not a crime to lie? because two weeks ago she said i didn t unmask. then she said i had town mask because i needed to know the context of the investigation. crime if she under oath. ainsley: should she testify under oath. senator cornyn testify under oath and many other congressman. you also have rand paul says she should be subpoenaed. judge: i m smiling because do you want me to wear my judge had or defense counsel hat or she is trying to undermine the trump administration hat? of course t
intelligence for political purposes against your other party. steve: and judge napolitano is going to be with us this hour and say if it was for political purposes it definitely is a crime. there was one other juicy tid bit in the wall street journal that said that mike flynn s name was obviously unmasked. it wasn t done by susan rice. that means there are at least two people in the obama administration. ainsley: she could have called for the unmasking. someone else did the unmasking and someone else might have leaked it. steve: apparently, rice did not instigate the unmasking. sound like two people. ainsley: interesting. you are correct in saying the nasa saying this is categorically saying this sun true. one of the sources said a number of people saw questionable stuff surrounding the obama administration that they were using national assets and intel for politics. brian: i just find it very intriguing that ranking member adam schiff has been mysteriously quiet where there was no c
let bring in the political panel to talk about this. bill kristol, let me start with you. what do you make of president trump saying that susan rice he thinks committed a crime? i know of no evidence that she committed a crime and, of course, i m not even sure with all due respect to the president with he s familiar with what unmasking is. what s so annoying about the whole susan rice unmasking controversy is this is resolvable. this is these are facts. there are documents. if an intelligence report came to susan rice, said i would like to know who is that was, that s on paper and goes back tony knows about with this more recently. goes back to the national security agency and they have a paper record what have they judge and it goes back. we can find out or we shouldn t perhaps see all the documents but some members, some impartial panel of distinguished former judges, attorneys general or whatever can sit down and in a day look at this and say, whoa, this is a little different
breached. what do you mean by that. fire wall national security information and particularly information collected on american citizens and our domestic political processes. and information that comes into the white house about american citizens isn t supposed to be used politically. and susan rice said it wasn t. we know that s not true. we know it s not true because of the leak about michael flynn to david ignatius of the washington post on january 12th. somebody in the white house or a senior administration official, according to ignatius told him about those conversations with kisdiskisskissly ache. that is patently political motive for that leak. dana: what about today, julie when susan rice speaks to andrea mitchell ate msnbc, she said well, look, this was well within my job. but, yet, just two weeks ago she said she didn t know anything about the unmasking. how does she square that
briefed the president before democrats about the intelligence report that did not relate to russia. chairman nunes has my confidence. i ve met with the committee. they have my confidence. this it s what is important is that this committee does its investigation, on a bipartisan basis to get to the bottom of things and go investigate all things russia. the house intelligence committee s ranking democrat issued this statement, not commenting on the con dent of the intelligence reports, but family sizing that unmasking in his experience is not unusual. dana? dana: well, one thing that is a little unusual in my experience, at least, is that the national security advisor is usually somebody that you never hear about. but in the last two administrations, first with secretary i m sorry ambassador rice and then you had mike flynn, they are well-known figures in this. how unusual is that in washington? well, i think if you point to the issue of susan rice, what you see is that she t