breached. what do you mean by that. >> fire wall national security information and particularly information collected on american citizens and our domestic political processes. and information that comes into the white house about american citizens isn't supposed to be used politically. and susan rice said it wasn't. we know that's not true. we know it's not true because of the leak about michael flynn to david ignatius of "the washington post on january 12th. somebody in the white house or a senior administration official, according to ignatius told him about those conversations with kisdiskisskissly ache. that is patently political motive for that leak. >> dana: what about today, julie when susan rice speaks to andrea mitchell ate msnbc, she said well, look, this was well within my job. but, yet, just two weeks ago she said she didn't know anything about the unmasking. how does she square that