constitutional protections for gun owners in my state. but polls also consistently show that 90% of americans support universal background checks including gun owners, including nra members. so people can, a, support gun rights, and, b, support common sense restrictions to make sure that dangerous people don t get guns and that people don t get dangerous weapons. there is no inconsistency between the two. this is really, you know, one of the most unique issues in american politics, where you do have broad agreement on some of these measures, like universal background checks and you can t get them passed through congress. i don t think democracy allows for that for very long. you said earlier that you would be willing to allow a clean bill in congress that bans or regulates bump stocks without having a further without requiring more broader gun control to be attached to the bill. is universal background checks
but we should bear arms responsibility. the second amendment exists and there should not be any restrictions whatsoever on gun rights. there is always going to be bad people among us. there are always going to be murderers, rapists, always somebody out there who is going to abuse and hurt people. we re not in the enforcement business. we don t ask people about their licensing. if they show up at our range with an automatic weapon and they re safe and they demonstrate profficiency with it, we don t interfere with them. reporter: stephanie, there was a range of opinion. that s the message i was trying to get across. there are some people who say, hey, look, what happened in las vegas with these mass shootings is heinous and we have to figure out how to control those things, and the old adage that guns don t kill people, people kill people. ali, this is a complicated one. we re going to keep discussing it.
why is the nra so successful? why do they have so much money? the gop, as i go down the line name after name, they take loads of money from the nra. why is this our country? they take a lot of money from the nra, but that money primarily comes from grassroots donors. so while gun companies are putting a lot of money into the nra, the majority is from mom and pop donors who support gun rights. so you have an incredibly powerful voting constituency that their lobby is essentially the most effective grassroots lobby in the country. the nra was loyal early to donald trump. he, as a manhattanite, might have been for gun control. now he s completely in with the nra because he s seen what they can deliver. they gave him money and they deliver votes, too. all right. tolo, isn t this the perfect opportunity, i know i ve said it before, for president trump to pivot? this seems like low-hanging fruit. these bump stocks, my gosh, to take a regular rifle and turn it
and that s a huge motivating factor for republican primary voters is defending gun rights and any attempt to infringe upon them. i think now with the bump stocks, we are in an area where there are republicans now, senior republican leadership on capitol hill who, as you said, are open to talking about it. the question is, what is the nra going to say and when will they say it? we should take this very seriously that they re quiet, but they re always quiet after these major ka tcatastrophes. orlando, sandy hook, they take a pause. what else are they going to do? that doesn t mean they ll say, yeah, we re for restricting these bump stocks. other more aggressive gun rights groups are saying, absolutely not, we won t support any gun control. the nra could go either way on this. you pull back the lens a little bit and think about the fact that these automatic weapons generally after 1986 are already illegal, so why wouldn t it be illegal to have a device that turns them into something t
gun control and the second amendment. 47% of americans in swing states said the issue to the supreme court was extremely important. and the issue of the supreme court was the proxy. you think supreme court is a proksy. more about guns than abortion. it was in 2016. president trump, those people who said it was extremely important, that half of the country, he won them by 14 points. we had a gun debate in the election and the public came out clearly on it. if you ask the public about specific gun measures there is overwhelming support each among gun owners for things like expanded background checks. one thing you find in the pew data is that more people support specific gun control measures but when you asked would you refuse to vote for someone who disagrees with you on guns. four times more likely. that is for people who support gun rights it is a voting issue, in a way that it is for those who support gun control.