don t. it costs us billions. because we re going to be there. so it s better to do it now. larry: george, we think of darfur, we think of you. how did you become so personally so involved in that area? i was reading nick cristoff s articles in the new york times. everybody was doing things. there were church groups and student movements and there was a lot of rumblings and great activists doing a lot of stuff. and ngos. but it wasn t getting enough play. and i m the son of a newsman. my dad used to talk about he would have a news story get bumped because they ended up putting some celebrity on tv instead after he had gone and covered a news story. so i thought, let s go to darfur. and you be the newsman and i ll be the celebrity and we ll combine them. whether it works or not, i don t know. all i know is, my job is to just try and make it loud. because, you know, when it s loud like this, people tend to
think of you. how did you come to be so personally involved in that area? i was reading articles in the new york times and it was n tgetting everybody was doing things. there were church groups and student movements and there was a lot of rumblings and a lot of things going on, great activists doing a lot of enough and ngos but it wasn t getting enough play. and i m the son of a news man. my dad used to talk about how he would have a news story get bumped because some celebrity was on tv after he had gone and covered a news story. so i said, let s go to darfur and you be the news man and i ll be the celebrity and we ll combine them. and whether it works or not, i don t know. all i know is my job is to just try and make it loud because when it s loud like this, people tend to move. i don t know if movement is always helpful but you can t do without moving.
in darfur, we didn t act fast enough in rwanda. we know what happen when s we don t. and it costs us billions because we re going to be there. so it s better to do it now. larry: george, we think of darfur, we think of you. how did you have to come so personally involved in that area? i was reading nick chris to have s articles in the new york times and it wasn t getting everybody was doing things, they were great there were church groups and student movements and there was a lot of rumblings and a lot of things going on, and great activists doing a lot of stuff, but it wasn t getting enough play, and i m a son of a newsman. my dad used to talk about how he would have a news story that would get bumped because they ended up putting some celebrity on tv after he d gone and covered a news story. s so i said, let s go to darfur, you be the newsman and i ll be the celebrity and we ll combine them. and whether it works or not, i don t know. all i know is my job is to just
everybody was doing things, they were great there were church groups and student movements and there was a lot of rumblings and a lot of things going on, and great activists doing a lot of stuff, but it wasn t getting enough play, and i m a son of a newsman. my dad used to talk about how he would have a news story that would get bumped because they ended up putting some celebrity on tv after he d gone and covered a news story so i said, let s go to darfur, you be the newsman and i ll be the celebrity and we ll combine them. and whether it works or not, i don t know. all i know is my job is to just try and make it loud. because, you know, when it s loud like this, people tend to do some tend to move. i don t know if moving is always helpful, but move you can t do it without moving. larry: a couple of other quick things. at the emmys you were honored with the bob hope humanitarian award, i know it meant a great deal to you, but you used that moment to speak and ask others to get
listen. here s the point. after the let s say let s give it the best-case scenario. the south sudan gets their peace, they get their independence, and they start their government. we there s still going to be efforts to make sure it s not a failed state. i mean, this is a long process. but what s important now, we know what happens when we don t act. we didn t act fast enough in the congo, we didn t act fast enough in darfur, we didn t act fast enough in rwanda. we know what happen when s we don t. and it costs us billions because we re going to be there. so it s better to do it now. larry: george, we think of darfur, we think of you. how did you have to come so personally involved in that area? i was reading nick chris to have s articles in the new york times and it wasn t getting everybody was doing things, they were great there were church groups and student movements and there was a lot of rumblings and a lot of things going on, and great activists doing a lot of st