We argue there was a complete failure of proof on the critical element of capacity or intended to deceive. When deceptively hiding risks are injected into the market that does harm the counter parties and there was harm to the counter parties but also harms other participants. New York Appeals Court Wrapping up a hearing in former President Trumps bid to overturn his multi hundred million dollars civil Fraud Judgment. Trumps lawyers arguing to a 5judge Panel that the ruling was, quote, unlawful and unconstitutional. Keep watching it to see where it goes from here. Hello im John Roberts in washington, The Fleet Footed Cohost of the show made it to the studio. Sandra thankful for fast elevators, warmed up ready to go john, im Sandra Smith in New York, This Is America reports. You will remember earlier this year, Judge Arthur engroan ruled trump his company and executives were libel for falsifying records and other financial crimes. The former president says it is nothing but a power grab
ever after because it is something. but i want to ask you about the law. are there any laws to prevent people from giving fraudulent or unintended financial donations with the purpose of infiltrating and spying on campaigns? is that does that violate any campaign laws? so what we report is that they gave numerous federal campaign donations as part of this operation. they gave $20,000 to the democratic national committee. that got them an invite to the democratic debate last february in las vegas. they gave to individual candidates. they gave to senator mark kelly in arizona. now, the law is that you cannot use a do what is called a straw donation. the money has to be yours. you can t be a pass-through. you can t give a donation for somebody else. so it is still unclear whether there were any laws broken. they gave the money in their name. the question was, whose money
money that they were bringing in, that according to federal prosecutors came from a foreign national. they don t identify in the court paperwork who that foreign national was. but they do say that the money came in and that it was involved in putting money into both state campaigns as well as federal campaigns, and that includes a super pac that s associated with the president. you re looking at on the right, two of the people now, lev parnas and igor fruman. and basically, chuck, when you look at this case, you re seeing what we kind of typically see in these straw donation or foreign donation cases. you re looking at somebody who was trying to move money in from abroad. somebody who was people that were trying to get money into this country and have it influence elections, or people that were trying to donate more than you re allowed to give and putting in fake names. he even misspelled fruman, one time, initially misspelled his name in one of his filings to try to deceive the fe
representing her dad coming to office, but it seems from the e-mails that she s representing her company, her family s company. you mentioned something important, which is that they obama and bush had both put caps on donations. $50,000 for obama. $100,000 for bush. still enormous but not like you can t write a $10 million check. right. do we know everything there is to know about who the donors are and where the money went? i don t think so. i mean, we already know from the public record that a ukrainian member of parliament successfully made a straw donation to the inaugural with the help of a guy named sam patten, a government relations specialist. who has pleaded guilty. all on public record now. i d like to find out what more there is. what i ve heard from people who worked the inauguration is that rick gates was making some strange asks of them. for example, would they be willing to take payment not from the inaugural committee but from a would-be donor directly.
you mentioned something important, which is that they obama and bush had both put caps on donations. $50,000 for obama. $100,000 for bush. still enormous but not like you can t write a $10 million check. right. do we know everything there is to know about who the donors are and where the money went? i don t think so. i mean, we already know from the public record that a ukrainian member of parliament successfully made a straw donation to the inaugural with the help of a guy named sam patten, a government relations specialist. who has pleaded guilty. all on public record now. i d like to find out what more there is. what i ve heard from people who worked the inauguration is that rick gates was making some strange asks of them. for example, would they be willing to take payment not from the inaugural committee but from a would-be donor directly. they didn t understand what that meant, but they regarded it as strange. now that they know what happened with rick gates, they