We argue there was a complete failure of proof on the critical element of capacity or intended to deceive. When deceptively hiding risks are injected into the market that does harm the counter parties and there was harm to the counter parties but also harms other participants. New York Appeals Court Wrapping up a hearing in former President Trumps bid to overturn his multi hundred million dollars civil Fraud Judgment. Trumps lawyers arguing to a 5judge Panel that the ruling was, quote, unlawful and unconstitutional. Keep watching it to see where it goes from here. Hello im John Roberts in washington, The Fleet Footed Cohost of the show made it to the studio. Sandra thankful for fast elevators, warmed up ready to go john, im Sandra Smith in New York, This Is America reports. You will remember earlier this year, Judge Arthur engroan ruled trump his company and executives were libel for falsifying records and other financial crimes. The former president says it is nothing but a power grab