eugene and shawna are here too. jeff, if you re michael cohen, representing michael cohen and you see this, what are you thinking? i think the message is clear that what is happening is the pardon power s morphing into if you have been charged with something similar to what michael cohen can be charged with, what flynn was charged with, what manafort was charged with, you may be getting a pardon. i think the message is, hey, guys, don t cooperate, stay low, eventually we can help you out. do you think it is that explicit the thought process in the president s mind ore sees folks on fox news, he hears his pals on the phone talking about this and he wants ton please the people around him? i think it s more likely to be those advising and supporting trump trying to help him realize he should stay calm and not have much to worry about. i would be surprised if trump had come to this conclusion on his own. but i think it s interesting when you look at the individuals pardoned that the
we had cops coming by us with guns saying stay low. there s multiple shooters on the loose. and we ended up i asked a guy a saw a guy running out to the audi and i was screaming at him that i needed his car. and this big gentleman who looked like a cowboy out of a movie came up behind me and said do you want me to get that guy s car, and i said, yeah, get that guy s car, and he did. and the guy came over and me and this young lady, her name is natalia, we got in the back of the car. i kept her iv on her and i told the guy i was a professional firefighter. i said i need you to take put your hazards on and get in the left lane and he did it. his name was wayne, and he was remarkable with it. he was just a solid dude that was able to follow direction really well. and we ended up getting her to sunrise hospital. when we got to sunrise, i
so we huddled up behind a there s three cars out in the parking lot. a suburban, a swat vehicle that there was no one in it and then an audioy. and we huddled. the shooting had stopped. they were still saying we have multiple shooters. we had a cop coming by us with guns saying stay low. there s multiple shooters on the loose. and we ended up i asked a guy a saw a guy running out to the audi and i was screaming at him that i needed his car. and this big gentleman who looked like a cowboy out of a movie came up behind me and said do you want me to get that guy s car and i said, yeah, get that guy s car and he did. and the guy came over and me and this young lady, her name is that the ala, we got in the back of the car. i kept her iv on her and i told the guy i was a professional firefighter. i said i need you to take put
seconds, 7-10 seconds gap between him reloading. that s when we moved from cover to cover. thank goodness it was a country concert, so many ex-military that kind of jumped in. the veteran hats, and 60-year-old man just ducking down, stay low, stay low. coaching people on what to do in the situation. i saw people plugging bulletholes with fingers. jon: let s talk about their heroism and try to forget about the tragedy. let s talk about the heroes that you saw last night. in a world where everyone is kneeling, i saw hundreds of people standing up and running towards the danger. these first responders, the second that you heard i did not know what to do in this
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