eugene and shawna are here too. jeff, if you re michael cohen, representing michael cohen and you see this, what are you thinking? i think the message is clear that what is happening is the pardon power s morphing into if you have been charged with something similar to what michael cohen can be charged with, what flynn was charged with, what manafort was charged with, you may be getting a pardon. i think the message is, hey, guys, don t cooperate, stay low, eventually we can help you out. do you think it is that explicit the thought process in the president s mind ore sees folks on fox news, he hears his pals on the phone talking about this and he wants ton please the people around him? i think it s more likely to be those advising and supporting trump trying to help him realize he should stay calm and not have much to worry about. i would be surprised if trump had come to this conclusion on his own. but i think it s interesting when you look at the individuals pardoned that the