president biden signalled he might be open to them, democrats in congress revolted. they aren t fair, and they don t work, dems argued. republicans say they are fair and that it is only responsible to have a baseline standard for who can receive government benefits like medicaid, that a requirement to work would motivate people to work. a hand up, not a hand out, says speaker kevin mccarthy. so how does a work requirement function in actuality? we ve got one of my favorite policy wonks with us to explain because it is a tricky issue. one that could sink a deal, and in light of that, a number of democrats are coming up with a plan b. there s one in the house to force a floor vote on the debt, over the objections of gop leadership if need be, and another being floated in the senate to negate a vote entirely. president biden, you have the authority all on your own, they say. one of those senators joins us to explain why. but first, let s get to the reporting and the policy. join
is seeking to compel a lawyer for the former president to testify before the grand jury. according to a source familiar with the matter. prosecutors alleged in a sealed filing that they have evidence that some of trump s conversations with the attorney were in furtherance of a crime. the special counsel is reportedly asking a judge to invoke the crime fraud exception. and force an attorney to testify under oath about conversations between him and his client which in this case, would be evan corcoran and one donald trump. the new york times which was first to report the news at the special counsel is zeroing in on this quote, whether trump or his associates obstructed justice in failing to comply with demands to return a trove of government material he took with him from the white house upon leaving office, including hundreds of documents with classified markings. one potentially very important piece of evidence determining whether the ex-president or his attorneys obstructe
conduct the investigations if t the e executive branch won t back them up. joining us now, former chairman of oversight reform committee. former utah congressman jason chaffetz. welcome chairman. i want to know what your oversight list of priorities would be. but you are the chairman of oversight. you get to pick what you want to look into. but you cannot enforce your own subpoenas that is up to the biden administration. that is the most difficult thing, we were both chairmen of that committee, i think the moral cases out there. the media does not always report it. hillary clinton s i-t person issued two s subpoenas they never showed up and they never enforced it. with that said, the table is set, every major issue, the democrats held no hearings on, so, it is a wide open plate there are a lot of things to go after. trey: we had dinner one night with late justice scalia. i asked him about the tools of congress and their ability to stand up for themselves and whether or not
of the high ranking jpmorgan bankers was close personal friends with jeffrey epstein, traveled to his island and was exchanging hundreds of e-mails with jeffrey epstein, including e-mails with pictures of young women referring to them with apparent code words like snow white and the like. those are ugly allegations that jpmorgan is facing, the ceo jamie dimon is set for a deposition in that case on may 26th. we ll see when jpmorgan decides to do the same thing that deutsche bank did, and settle this or not, or whether they decide to fight it out. jpmorgan has said there s no indication we have participated in this, that they wanted this to happen. this is deeply upsetting what happened to these women but shouldn t be a liability for jpmorgan. jpmorgan said they are not liable for the sex traffics of their long-time client epstein. this might be an off the wall question, does jamie dimon normally get deposed? is this a situation that
when you prosecute the tax collector, you have a false sense of security and complacency, that everything is fine, justice has been achieved, and we move on. really what i have seen is there is a more insidious backdrop to mr. greenberg, and he s only the tip of the sphere. it s a familiar pattern in these investigations that we cover over and over again here. that was fritz scheller on this program as our guest in december. his client has been at the center of the lengthy justice department investigation into whether republican congressman matt gaetz was part of a scheme that led to the sex traffics of a 17-year-old girl. these are allegations that gaetz has denied. today, nbc news learned from gaetz attorneys that they were informed by doj that doj has ended its probe, and that gaetz will not be charged with any