eit and after al sheeb was broken using enhanced interrogation, the two gave enough information to track khalid shaikh mohammed to his hideout in pakistan. the problem, karl, that s wrong not according to three cia directors who were there at time. the information that was provided bit cia at the time, that s why we went underneath what the directors were saying and saw what the actual traffic was from these black sites at the time. that s why we actually interviewed talked to the investigators you didn t interview they were in front of the committee all the time. all the time. but they were none of them were interviewed for this report. that s what they say. finally, because this gets directly to that question, the third question we to want discuss. did the cia mislead the white house and congress. the senate report says, yes. again, vice president cheney. the notion the committee is trying to peddle that the agency
today up until we have another 9/11. while the conversations are important they should be done in a nonpartisan way. americans are most thankful that the cia are the first people in, last people out of the incredible dangerous places we send them and that s the overall message we should get out there. you do think having a discussion about the techniques, was it torture, did it work, you think that s use snfl. sure. we ve had those conversations, both the bush and obama department s declined to prosecute anybody. we ve had lots of these conversations. this particular report, which was done without interviewing any of the people that should have been interviewed for this type of conversation to go forward was a partisan exercise a small number of democratic senators, a small number of democratic staffers wanted to put out and puts it out and sets up the frail work for that debate in a warped way. juan? look, most republicans on the committee voted to release the report. so, i do
if another 9/11 happens f we re faced with another imminent threat do we go back to enhanced interrogation, you re worried about a follow-on attack by ksm, that air remarks will we be more strained or tim snid. one thing the white house is hoping by putting this report out is it becomes a fair wall if you were to something like 9/11 happened again. we have this public accounting. people know what happened. perhaps know what information did or did not come out of these techniques. that being said, i just don t think any of us can realistically say this will never happen again if something as horrific as 9/11 ever happened. we saw in the aftermath of that attack, the nation reacted in ways that i think a lot of us wouldn t have expected and people were comfortable with that for a long time. i don t know if it s at all clear, yes, the committee issued the report but it hasn t settled the issue as to, one, whether these tactics were necessary or not and whether they were effective.
didn t know about thigh enhanced interrogation techniques until 2005. you were there. is that true? no. it says how he was briefed, he was presented 12 techniques. he authorized the use of ten of them, including waterboarding. it s in a footnote and illustrative of the problem with the report the allegation. yes. they didn t talk to the people. they spoke to no one. they simply read documents. it s like the queen of hearts, you know, for judgment first, verdict second. they came to a predetermined conclusion before they ever began. what about the congressional briefing? senator whitehouse was a member of the committee in 2007. between 2002 and 2008 the senate committee were members of the senate were briefed 35 times and members of the house 30 times. he s right at the beginning it wasn t all the members of the committee. it was the leadership of the committee, the so-called gang of eight. they were briefed. these people are on the record as having at the time encourage
didn t know about thigh enhanced interrogation techniques until 2005. you were there. is that true? no. it says how he was briefed, he was presented 12 techniques. he authorized the use of ten of them, including waterboarding. it s in a footnote and illustrative of the problem with the report the allegation. yes. they didn t talk to the people. they spoke to no one. they simply read documents. it s like the queen of hearts, you know, for judgment first, verdict second. they came to a predetermined conclusion before they ever began. what about the congressional briefing? senator whitehouse was a member of the committee in 2007. between 2002 and 2008 the senate committee were members of the senate were briefed 35 times and members of the house 30 times. he s right at the beginning it wasn t all the members of the committee. it was the leadership of the committee, the so-called gang of eight. they were briefed. these people are on the record as having the time encouraged