about. was vice president cheney influential in the beginning, he yes, he was. was he a puppet master no he wasn t. that s a caricature. he was important. the president relied on him. he was a seasoned veteran. he understood how power and washington worked. as things moved along by the second term president bush began moving away and began looking at things differently. he wanted to repair relations with the allies and rethink some the policies on the middle east and so forth. and vice president khan saw that as, you know, moving away from the principles that they had shared in the first term and they began fighting about a lot of issues. and by the time they left office, when they ended up sort of having this confrontation over the scooter libby pardon. now i know that they met at the library and you write about that in your book. now, is there any indication that they talk to each other very much. i think they have a very proper relationship. an appropriate relationship. they don
this partnership was all about. was vice president cheney influential in the beginning, he yes, he was. was he a puppet master no he wasn t. that s a caricature. he was important. the president relied on him. he was a seasoned veteran. he understood how power and washington worked. as things moved along by the second term president bush began moving away and began looking at things differently. he wanted to repair relations with the allies and rethink some the policies on the middle east and so forth. and vice president khan saw that as, you know, moving away from the principles that they had shared in the first term and they began fighting about a lot of issues. and by the time they left office, when they ended up sort of having this confrontation over the scooter libby pardon. now i know that they met at the library and you write about that in your book. now, is there any indication that they talk to each other very much. i think they have a very proper relationship. an appropria
troops and politics that were hard enough for him at that time. misperceptions about the relationship between bush and cheney but how did the relationship change or evolve over those years? yeah. i think by the end they have this fight over the scooter libby pardon and a proxy for the frustrating two years they had before then. for cheney that lost so many battles felt bush went off in a different direction. in effect he was asking for validation. this man who worked for me was ill-treated, unjustly convicted. president bush calls his lawyers. he brings him in and says you examine it. they met with scooter libby in a seafood restaurant and came back and said we think the jury had every reason to convict him and the president decided against it knowing it would fracture their relationship. you saw that clip at the library and very polite and proper because that s what the bush family is. the truth is they don t talk very often any more. they were never buddy, but they have a very pr
there s nothing more important i think to help somebody live. during my presidency, i convinced congress to spend taxpayer s money to save lives. not only from hiv but malaria. and it worked. we wanted to continue that type of work with cervical cancer. this will bring your team together? yes, it will. we talked to a lot of them in recent days. at the end of the presidency there was strain over the disagreements in the second term, over the scooter libby pardon. was that strained? no, it was never strained. that s the mythology that s that we ve escaped. in other words, there s a mythology in washington, there s kind of a he writes in his book that things were tense.
recent days. at the end of the presidency there was strain over the disagreements in the second term, over the scooter libby pardon. was that strained? no, it was never strained. that s the mythology that s that we ve escaped. in other words, there s a mythology in washington, there s kind of a he writes in his book that things were tense. not really. scooter libby didn t agree with that decision. i don t i people look at the total picture. and we re friends then and friends now. can you enlighten us to the paint i painting? [ laughter ] george w. rembrandt. he was looking for a pastime when he gave up smoking cigars. so he read churchill s book,