court ruled in favor of a philadelphia catholic social services group that refused to allow same-sex couples to foster children. it was a narrow ruling but still a disappointing step back for equality. given the nation s high court is now the most conservative it s been in 70 years, is the future of gay rights in jeopardy? here to talk about the state of the lgbtq movement, sasha eisenberg author of the engagement: america s quarter century struggle over same-sex marriage and alfonso david. thank you for coming to the sunday show. sasha, i ll start with you. talk about the premises of your book and how conservative opposition to same-sex marriage actually kind of helped same-sex marriage. in the early 1990s there was no corner that made winning marriage equality a priority.
organization in the country, your job one of many of your jobs, is to ensure that legislation and other things that would be helpful to the community get over the finish line whether it s in towns, states, or federally. and you know where i m going. the equality act. where is it? why is it important that the senate actually vote on it and get it passed to the president s desk? well, thank you, jonathan. thank you for writing this book, sasha. i think the book highlights that the conservative opposition to lgbtq rights will fail. it failed before and it ll fail again. jonathan, to your question, more than 70% of voters support equality. one in six youth adults identify as lgbtq. we need the equality act because lgbtq people face discrimination every day. two-thirds of lgbtq people report experiencing some type of
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to have some sense of morality and pr to not say that to a journalist. yeah, i mean, this grows out of basically their strategic assumption at the end of the campaign, which is that they have this very fervent base, you know, the thing that s getting them to 42 or 43 or 44% in state polls. they recognize that that s not going to be enough for a plurality in enough states to get 270 electoral votes. so their strategic assumption at this point is, the only way they can turn their coalition into a winning number is to shrink the size of the electorate. and this is their gambit to go after groups that they what do they think they have the most chance to reduce turnout among democrats? sasha, your piece is pretty unambiguous among two things. one, they understand they re almost certain to lose. and two, that they have longer term ambitions along the lines a lot of people expect. trying to build some kind of media operation on the back of this movement. talk about that. so, trump has
donald trump s behind-the-scenes data operation has been something his campaign has kept almost entirely from public view. but bloomberg businessweek s josh green and sasha eisenberg was granted access that the trump campaign is using in the final days of this election season, and possibly beyond. we are joined now by one of the authors of that piece, from our washington bureau, sasha issenberg. it is great to see you here. tell us about your story, sasha. so, josh and i went down to san antonio, where the trump campaign has built basically a second headquarters. there are people who go to work in an office than go to trump tower every day and it s where trump has built this sort of data digital operation that they ve been loathe to talk