martha: the administration that i can remember we haven t seen ultimately happens, that they do eventually want things to get done but i do want to get back to sarah hall ingram for a moment. yeah. martha: the suggestion from what i read on this the issue they were discussing between the irs and the white house had to do with groups pushing for religious liberties, for companies perhaps like hobby lobby who wanted to be exempt from obamacare because they didn t believe in covering birth control. if that is the case, if you have this individual sending information about that company or individuals related to that company to the white house to discuss whether or not they should be able to get these exemptions, is this woman, are there charges that would be considered against her? as you said that is a federal offense, is it not? yeah. these people run significant risk, there is no question about it. lying to congress as well can carry five years in prison. you see how careful she was
but when he asked for help, no one listens. martha: back to this story now for a moment. house republicans now accusing the top irs official enforcing obamacare penalties of breaking the law, that she may have broken the law herself. house oversight committee members claim that sarah hall ingram giving private tax information. jim jordan pushing mrs. hall to explain several 2012 emails. watch this. just look at that email real closely. see where all the black print, where it is all blacked out? there is number written on each of the plaqued out areas. can the number written there? can you say for the number there. for the release of the documents 6103. 6103. so someone at the irs decided this was confidential taxpayer information. when we got these document, when the committee got the documents,