new york times. this is another issue about who is going to be liberal and who isn t. the, my on buds woman said that it jon: public editor. should use that phrase. she said it was the justice department. that was one of the sources. but they do bring up trey gowdy. find it ridiculous to think that the new york times would launch a front page story of that size on the word of a guy that they all hate, of trey gowdy, who is no one s favorite on the democratic side of the aisle. but we re supposed to believe that it was a partisan opposition to hillary. i believe it was in fact the doj and perhaps even the white house. we know it was valerie jarrett who moved the first story about hillary s email server. that is suspected. we don t know that for sure. it was, within the block of time where the, it was revealed that joe biden was having lunches with obama s fund-raisers effectively. this is where i think the collapse happened. it was political at the start. it remained polit
the remaining seven at 5:00 p.m. from cleveland as well with colleagues bill and martha. a lot of people say it started so earlier just a reminder first debate was in may in south carolina. this is a big moment especially because the first time we ll see donald trump on a debate stage. i think there are a lot of people interested in how that all will transpire but every candidate i think is anxious about this two-hour debate. in the top 10, to see how, you know they can position themselves. really answer substantive policy questions. jon: rick perry was on america s newsroom this morning. said that he doesn t see this as a make or break moment. it would be better to be in the big debate with the top 10 candidates than not, but he says it is a long haul and you don t necessarily have to be one of the top 10 right now to go ahead and win the nomination. case in point mitt romney wasn t on the stage for the
accomplish this. it s interesting, michelle thinking back to what senator lindsey graham and other gop contenders said in the past few months. he talked about his party and he said, you know we have energy plans. we don t have environmental plans as a party. you know when you look back to 2012 the issue of climate change didn t come up in a debate. we ve got a big debate on thursday. does this force the issue? reporter: absolutely. just from what we re hearing already, the president is going to do this now. we re in the early throes of this campaigning. of course those questions will come up. it s adding fuel to the fire, so to speak is that a bad pun? s it it is a big issue. the white house has cared about very much. it s grown and grown as we ve seen national disasters and especially hot summers. the fires going on in california those things too, have generated more debate over this. it s just like oil and water there. those who say the facts show
we had everything in the car ready to go. william is live in los angeles watching all of this. what is the status today on all of these fires, william? reporter: bill, california has 75 new fires over the weekend most from lightning. 13 are burning out of control. the biggest and most dangerous is the rocky fire north of san francisco west of sacremento. they have 19 helicopters on scene trying to get containment. normally a fire dies down at night but that is not the case here. the rocky fire grew from 40 to 84 square miles on sunday. the shifting winds are forcing the firefighters to fight on all fronts and secondally the secondly the drought. there is no moisture to resist and it is burning like paper.
that s what they re working on doing so that there will be no more buildings burnt but already we know there have been some 50 structures that have been damaged, destroyed i should say, half of those being homes. they re working to try to keep other buildings safe and all those evacuees to allow them to get back in there. right now 60,000 acres, that s a lot of acreage we re talking about that has been burned in this rocky fire and so much of it ballooning over the weekend, just really taking off. the last thing that drought-riddled california needs right now. stephanie elam thank you for that. to politics now. republican presidential hopefuls are blasting president obama s ambitious new plan to combat climate change. some already threatening to take it to court, and the president hasn t even officially unveiled it yet. that happens later this afternoon. let s go to the white house. michelle kosinski is live there for us. michelle the white house put out this extensive plan and they