Cause the next pandemic only some more coming up on todays going underground but 1st to a scientist who has transformed our definition of humanity itself while leaders like Boris Johnson and donald trump attempt to reignite neoliberal economics after coronavirus the pioneering primatologist dr jane goodall argues we need mastery education about what it is to be human without that education promoted in 140. 00 countries by our n. G. O. Roots and shoots we are condemned just suffer not just coronavirus but one pandemic after another she joins me now via skype from bournemouth in england jane thanks so much for coming on everyone here is talking about restarting the economy the u. S. And u. K. Saying weve got to fight china yet few people really talking about environmental or industrial farming what do you make of the origin of coronavirus. Well you know i obviously personally havent studied the transmission of barristers from animals to people a simple zoonotic diseases but ive read an a
Epidemics that began from our factory farms in the effort to arson all these terrible unhygienic conditions one of the new films that are out from national geographic. Called jame the 1st of their 2 once called hope talks about you when youre in goma in tanzania and the tragedy when polio hits the Small Community of a chimpanzees you are investigating and and made the whole of the world realize that humans were the only not the only species to have consciousness arguably just tell me about when a pandemic hit that camp. Well it was it was really the worst time in my life because we never knew which chimpanzee would come in dragging an arm or a neck and then some of them would just disappear and it was it was absolutely heartbreaking and it began in a nearby town. And bizarrely the doctor at the time it was an italian he he didnt he could not talk about polio we think its because he couldnt have the proper supplies anyway nobody knew that it was colin or anywhere and then some people in
Tells going underground that finger wagging at china from elites wont stop the Global Industrial farming practices and environmental destruction that may cause the next pandemic oliseh more coming up on todays going underground but 1st to a scientist who has transformed our definition of humanity itself while leaders like Boris Johnson and all trump attempt to reignite neo liberal economics after coronavirus the pioneering primatologist dr jane goodall argues we need mastery education about what it is to be human without that education promoted in 140. 00 countries by our n. G. O. Roots and shoots we are condemned just suffer not just coronavirus but one pandemic after another she joins me now via skype from bournemouth in england jane thanks so much for coming on everyone here is talking about restarting the economy the u. S. And u. K. Saying weve got to fight china yet few people really talking about environmental or industrial farming what do you make of the origin of coronavirus. W
Down among to people and we brought this on ourselves because of our terrible disrespect of the Natural World and animals and so you know we take wild animals we kill them eat them we trafficked them we send them to meet markets in asia well mark animal meat markets in asia and meat the bush meat trade animals also meat markets in africa and we breathe down Domestic Animals billions of them in terrible cruel. You know conditions and all of this terrible conditions in the meat markets and our factory farms are creating absolutely superb environments as far as that this is a 2nd sound to animals to people who move to the markets there no less than a celebrity like support mccartney who is quick to say we must close the wet markets down i notice youve been keen to emphasize the difference between wet markets per se and wildlife markets perhaps seeking not to oriental eyes this pandemic. Yes well the thing is the point about a wet market is that most wet markets in china dont sell wild ani
Not imaginary tansey and were going underground is the 73rd World Health Assembly brings together members of the w. H. O. Virtually and after the u. S. Accuses a chinese lab of formulating coronavirus and stealing Vaccine Research coming up on the show and the strange connection. I connect with people with with animals that small mind to mind one of the worlds most famous conservationists jane goodall tells going underground that finger wagging at china from elites wont stop the Global Industrial farming practices and environmental destruction that may cause the next pandemic oliseh more coming up on todays going underground but 1st to a scientist who has transformed our definition of humanity itself while leaders like Boris Johnson and donald trump attempt to reignite neoliberal economics after coronavirus the pioneering primatologist dr jane goodall argues we need mastery education about what it is to be human without that education for moated in 140. 00 countries by our n. G. O. Roo