Awful but we will get through it just as we get through really been through a lot of very unpleasant times in my life to live 86 year old so. When you hear leaders like Boris Johnson babson certainly dont trump repeatedly claiming no one could have predicted this pandemic you know you dont think thats the case. And i know its not its not to like because people studying these these soon arctic seasons have been predicting a really long time and you know that learns ok hiv aids started problems and things and selling eating chimpanzees into different parts of africa sars thats again from another wild wild animal market in china bent mars again from probably camels in the middle east and the big. Simple academics began from factory farms in the effort to arson all these terrible unhygienic conditions one of the new films that out from national geographic. Called jame the 1st of their 2 once called hope talks about you when youre in goma in tanzania and the tragedy when polio hits the Smal
Or industrial farming what do you make of the origin of coronavirus. Well you know i obviously personally havent studied the transmission of viruses from animals to people as socalled zoonotic diseases but ive read an awful lot about it its very clear that most new diseases in people today have spilled over from bacteria or in this case of iris from animals sometimes it goes from a reservoir speeds to another animal which ystem the intermediate host and from that down im allowed to people and we brought this on ourselves because of our terrible disrespect of the Natural World and animals and so you know we take wild animals we kill them eat them we trafficked them we send them to meet markets in asia well marked animal meat markets in asia and meat the bush meat trade animals also meat markets in africa and we breathe down Domestic Animals billions of them in terrible cruel. You know conditions and all of this terrible conditions in the meat markets and our factory farms are creating a
Problem until and selling eating chimpanzees into different parts of africa sassed that again from another wild wild animal market in china then again from probably camels in the middle east and then being simple epidemics began from our factory farms in the avatars and all these terrible unhygienic conditions one of the new films that are out from national geographic. Called james the 1st of their 2 once called hope talks about you when youre in goma in tanzania and the tragedy when polio hits the Small Community of a chimpanzees you are investigating in and made the whole of the world realize that humans were the only not the only species to have consciousness arguably just tell me about when a pandemic hit that camp. Well it was it was really only the worst time in my life because we never knew which chimpanzee would come in dragging an arm or a neck and then some of them would just disappear and it was it was absolutely heartbreaking and it began in a nearby town. And bizarrely the
But not wild animals thats now been closed in china the trading and selling of wild animals for troops the problem here is you saw one problem but then another looms and the one looming here is all the thousands of people who actually have no other likelihood so you have to help them get through changing from breeding and selling wild animals hunting wild animals for food and finding another way of making money so you see poverty is crucial eradication of poverty is crucial to your Environmental Concerns absolutely and you know we mustnt forget the Climate Crisis and our concern for the cove it 19 because thats something which will carry on into the future this this pandemic will get through b s that a lot of many many places are going to have very serious economic problems people have lost their jobs people are mourning family members who gunk you know its been awful but we will get through it just as we get through really been through a lot of very unpleasant times in my life i mean
Cause the next pandemic only some more coming up on todays going underground but 1st to a scientist who has transformed our definition of humanity itself while leaders like Boris Johnson and donald trump attempt to reignite neoliberal economics after coronavirus the pioneering primatologist dr jane goodall argues we need mastery education about what it is to be human without that education promoted in 140. 00 countries by our n. G. O. Roots and shoots we are condemned just suffer not just coronavirus but one pandemic after another she joins me now via skype from bournemouth in england jane thanks so much for coming on everyone here is talking about restarting the economy the u. S. And u. K. Saying weve got to fight china yet few people really talking about environmental or industrial farming what do you make of the origin of coronavirus. Well you know i obviously personally havent studied the transmission of barristers from animals to people a simple zoonotic diseases but ive read an a