campaign from his former bos and 2020 and today mike penc appeared before the grand jury investigating january six. what his testimony could mea for the special counsel. and then the parents of louisville shooter speak out i an emotional interview what are they are saying about for real change. and it is more than just hollywood magic, how artificia intelligence is transforming movies, music, and eve politics but at what cost as the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night goo evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle live fro washington d.c. tonight wher there is a major development i the special counse investigation into forme president donald trump s efforts to overturn the 2020 election according to a source familiar with the matter, today, former vice president mike penc testified for hours before the federal grand jury in the case the january six committe already shed some light on wha pence did that day in th capitol riot we have seen video of then vic president p
mike pence to feel som residual sense of loyalty, and mike pence is clearly conflicted figure because in fact he has turned on th president in the sense that he resisted the presidents of pressure to do what he thought he could not do under th constitution, but he is no turned on him in the sense tha he is denounced him in vigor s terms, or a lot of the thing that other people woul denounce him for he has been circumscribe i what he said about former trum and he s trying to walk a line in which he keeps fidelity t what he thinks is the trum pence record and maybe the trump upends voters withou actually changing his mind about what he did on january 6th, which is what he though he had to do under the constitution and glenn, the word unprecedented sort of lost its meaning. it was over used so much durin the trump administration, but want you to put it i perspective. ryan was noting how historic this day is, mike penc testifying this is a former vice presiden
testifying against his forme boss, the former president o the united states of america who he also victimized. mike pence is an important witness. mike pence is also a victim in this sad endeavor. when donald trump turned on him, and sent that out to the folks that he said on the capitol, mike pence did not have th courage to do what was right what i needed him to, do the want it to hang mike pence i mean, it is a little hard to understand how mike pence ha held himself back and not been a little more forward-leanin in being willing to tell the truth about his interactions with donald trump in the run u to january six but now that he has testified, staff, we are at the top of th evidentiary children poll. all that is left is for some indictments to start to drop but we know exactly why mik pence has been not s forthcoming in the riding up t this because in the run up to 2024,