that we tell in the impeachment report is uncontradicted, unrefuted and remains so. indeed, it has been confirmed o mulvaney himself who said, of course we engage in political quid pro quos along the way, even president trump himself basically admitted the behavior saying that s what he wanted from ukraine. so i agree with you that i hope at the trial that the witnesses that were held back by the white house do come forward and i hope that the complete story is told. but the house of representatives really has done its job here as constitutionally aside. the question is whether the senate will do its job, because it has to conduct a trial, meaning a real trial, not some kind of jury nullification process where, you know, senator mcconnell and lindsey graham say we already know that we re going to quit, so we re going to run roughshod over the evidence. we re not going to accept that. they re on oath.
members of congress. so you can t impeach pelosi. our constitution doesn t allow it. quid pro quos are often good in government. you want to have deals. the problem is if you have a quid pro quo for personal ends and that s why, you know, the beginning of my book starts with a quote from a congressman in 2008 who says, what is a high crime and misdemeanor? well, it s when the president puts his personal interests above those of the american people. that congressman was mike pence, now our vice president, and that s what i think, you know, the president has violated. that s why i think he s so scared because i think down deep, after all the obfuscation and everything else, he knows he committed an impeachable offense. i mean this is core impeachment, don. this is exactly what the founders put impeachment in the constitution for. neal, how do you see this pelosi/mcconnell standoff playing out because some people are saying, oh, she has leverage. others are saying she has no leverage. h
it basically outlines impeachment. i wonder if you saw the president s tweet. it says nancy pelosi is looking for a quid pro quo with the senate. why aren t we impeaching her? i mean we know trump is anxious for the senate trial. at least that s what he s saying, to start as soon as possible. he is furious over the article. she s clearly getting under his skin. it looks like pelosi does have some leverage here. definitely. soph dios mio. i don t know where to begin with that tweet. first of all, you can t impeach members of congress. so you can t impeach pelosi. our constitution doesn t allow it. quid pro quos are often good in government. you want to have deals. the problem is if you have a quid pro quo for personal ends and that s why, you know, the beginning of my book starts with a quote from a congressman in 2008 who says, what is a high crime and misdemeanor? well, it s when the president puts his personal interests above those of the american people. that congressman was mik
price for it it s not just at the presidential level. they are going to pay a price at the local level. harris: i don t know if you caught it moments ago. saying that a fourth of people who come to the rallies are registering as democrats. president trump is going after people who may feel disaffected. you are talking about why you might feel disaffected, that maybe they overreached on impeachment. i want to ask something on behalf of one of our viewers, duane allen. he is holding the articles of impeachment to try to leverage the senate majority leader for a better deal, isn t that what they claim the president has done? someone pointed to him, is it could pro quote? it got a lot of responses. we could carry this further and further and look at other analogous situations within government as to whether or not these are quid pro quos. this is part of what happens in government and things go a little too far but again i m
maybe joe biden decide he s going to take part in that as a as a service to his party. and maybe he thinks that can help him in his campaign. maybe the republicans say, okay, we ll let john bolton come talk. we ll put mick mulvaney on the stand. obviously, that s very hypothetical. but but the big ones here would obviously be bolton, who has shown somewhat of an interest in testifying even as he s awaiting these court cases. he seems to be the most motivated of these potential witnesses who could say something that would be harmful to the president. mick mulvaney, who is the president s top aide. the most senior person who has been directly implicated in these quid pro quos and actually admitted, before he pulled it back, that there were that there was a quid pro quo with the military aid. i also think it would be interesting to see a couple people who we haven t really been talking about. one would be senator ron johnson. he was in touch with both the ukrainians and with preside