lawlessness and just obvious corruption to this kind of behavior. you know, david dwergen, i want to read you the text exchange between the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine bill taylor and sondland. tailor writes i said i think it s crazy to withhold critical assistance. i believe bill i believe urine correct about the intentions. president president has been critical clear, no quid pro quos of any kind. the president is trying to evaluate whether ukraine is truly going to adopt a transparent reforms. president zelensky promised during his campaign. sondland testified that s what the president told him. we heard the president reading out loud from that note card. but of course that s what the president told him because he knew he was being accused of it by a whistle-blower. yeah, but and your the point john is what? i still don t understand where the connection is- the next
i want to see adam schiff testify about the whistleblower who saw fake whistleblower, it said there were 8, 7 quid pro quos, there were none, there s nothing there. rob: will the president debunk democrats, joining us now senior legal adviser for the trump 2020 campaign jen ellis, great to hear him say he wants to to go a trial, why is that? that s what an innocent person does, president trump has been clear there s nothing he has done, when you look at transcripts there s nothing there, what we saw in impeachment hearings over the last 2 weeks there s absolutely nothing there, what he s actually say if this proceed today a full trial he would get due process finally and so there would be other witnesses adam schiff, hunter, joe biden. rob: but let me ask you this, you say this is how an innocent
one thing ambassador sondland said was a confirm example of quid pro quo is the white house communicated to ukrainian president zelensky s administration that unless he announced he was investigating some of the president s political rivals, he wouldn t be able to have a meeting at the white house with president trump. a lot of the conversation about potential bribery attempts or quid pro quos has focused on the dollar figure of the military aid to the ukrainians, but at that point over the summer it was important to kiev that zelensky get a meeting in the white house with trump. i think we might be underestimating the extent to which securing a meeting was front of mind for zelensky s administration. and sondland now says that particular item they really, really wanted the president withheld explicitly because he wanted them to investigate the biden family. congressman schiff invoked a very interesting line from sondland s opening testimony and
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calling gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the european union. sondland is the only witness so far who spoke directly to president trump about investigations. he previously said it was crystal clear no quid pro quos of any kind. but he then reversed his testimony, admitting in his opening statement it happened and it was not a secret. was there a quid pro quo? the answer is yes. reporter: republicans jumped on sondland saying he was merely assuming a quid pro quo. did the president ever tell you personally about any preconditions for anything? no. reporter: dr. fiona hill was next and expressed her frustration with sondland while she was working as the top russia expert at the white house. and i did say to him ambassador sondland, gordon, i think this is all going to blow up, and here we are. reporter: hill says she didn t realize at the time sondland was carrying out a very different mission than her own.