happen until donald trump is sitting in that defendant s seat in the same way that these proud boys have been sitting there for days or weeks, whatever it has been. also, not only donald trump, but other political leadership, including members of congress in this country, who may have assisted in the events of january 6. there s still plenty of justice to be served in our nation with respect to what happened on january 6. and also, i was part of the trial team that went over to the senate and tried to get a conviction against donald trump after he was impeached for the second time in the house. as everybody knows, we fell short. but during that trial and in the lead-up to the trial, he can kept calling it an insurrection. i believe it s actually an attempted coup. these people were trying to change the course of american history and change who ultimately would become president of the united states. that s what this was, an attempted coup. do you think if there were to
you very much for joining us. we have to go back to ryan reilly who s got the rest of the verdict or what remains, at least in the proud boys trial. ryan, what do you have? reporter: yes, that fifth defendant, dominic pezzola has been found not guilty of the top charge of seditious conspiracy, and the judge has declared a mistrial on the outstanding counts. i wouldn t say that dominic pezzola was considered that much of a win, given that he has huge criminal exposure, and overall this is a huge victory for the justice department, securing four out of five of the top charges, and significant criminal exposure against all five defendants. arguably i think there might even be some smiles at the prosecutor s table because on appeal it s going to be a lot easier for them to make the case that the jury considered this very diligently and looked at these charges very carefully. they didn t just throw the book at everybody. they looked carefully at what the evidence shows, and what they conc
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place. really, it s just time for congress to do its job. you have myself and more than 200 house democrats who believe that we should raise the debt ceiling now. we should put it clean on the house floor to ensure that we pay america s bills for spending decisions made many times many years in the past. then we can move on to discussions about what next year s spending looks like and the years beyond. congressman boyle from pennsylvania, thanks for being with us. more breaking news from the proud boys trial here in washington where jurors sent the judge a note. all we know coming up live from the courthouse when andrea mitchell reports returns in 60 seconds. stay with us. you are watching msnbc. helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there
what they did is came to the judge and said, what do we do if we are locked up. they didn t definitively say we are at an impasse and can t move on past this point. we weren t instructed on what we do if we get to that point and the judge reminding them that they are allowed to return partial investigations verdicts, if locked up send me a note and when they would come down with the dynamic instruction, it s an allen charge and saying essentially go back to the grind, try to get this out. i think maybe more adequate description of what we saw today instead of the dynamic charge is probably a sparkler from the judge today. let me for context for our viewers put up what the jury has asked to reach a conclusion on. the charges in the proud boys trial, count one seditious conspiracy, ryan s reporting on, count two, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, count three, conspiracy to