conversation. pat, how s our libyan army doing, the boys, the rebels, charging up the hill? new land speed record coming back. turning and running. turn and running. president obama made some valid points, however, now is the reason i ask they re not the time to be discussing looking into whether or not food politics and war, not when we ve coloring that is put in these just lost someone very dear, liz products add to problems in taylor was an icon, one of the hyperactivity in some children. it s actually a serious last true movie stars. this is for you, liz. question. it makes sense as you said. it does make sense. i always wondered about it. some of the cereals you mention ready so filled with it seems to me you lived your suinger. sugar and artificial life like a candle in the wind your knee would be jigging all day long from a spoonful. this is going to catch up never knowing who to cling to with us and the government is when the rain set in lookin
the united states doing it for him. pretty good way to roll out. we can expect tim kaine to leave the democratic national committee very shortly to announce that he s going on to fight george allen. george allen trying to reclaim his senate seat just yesterday. former senator allen has a staff, sent out a fund raising e-mail to patriots and friends. he s got it going. this is going to be one of the most if not the did we just lose mike? i think we lost mike allen. i think jim vandehei pulled the plug. vandehei gets very jealous. we cut you off there. sorry. about tim kaine. partly because virginia will be such an important state for president obama. he won here in a surprise, normally a red state. the president will be back, spending a lot of time in virginia. that will add to the excitement
libya, nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard andle with the very late theft. richard? reporter: it continues to be a difficult period, mika, for the rebels. they are losing territory. they ve been losing more territory this morning and gadhafi s troops are changing their tactics. they re not using as many tanks as they have been in recent days. it became clear to gadhafi s tank commanders that if they went out in those armored vehicles they could easily be identified and destroyed from the air by nato and the united states. instead, gadhafi s troops are using small units, jeeps, civilian vehicles and are going out through the desert, flanking the rebels, firing mortars on them and the rebels are simply retreating. it s not just a question of weapons, it s a question of training, discipline, and tactics at this stage. and richard, at this point, goodness gracious, if the rebels are armed and we have word now that prime minister cameron is echoing the president and not
it will give that message in syria. i think the president debunked that last night f. gadhafi wins, obama loses. he cannot let gadhafi go back and retake this country or he s got a hellacious he started a war with libya and gadhafi and lost it? on to the budget. ezra, it s a good day to have you in. i m more comfortable here. the obama administration remains confident that a deal can be struck on funding for the rest of this fiscal year to prevent a government shutdown next friday. let s stop right there. ezra, who wins, who loses if there s a government shutdown? we all lose if there s a government shutdown. what will probably happen is obama wins and democrats and republicans in congress lose. there s good evidence on this in the states. we ve had 170 late budget schettdowns since 1988. basically what happens in a government shutdown or budget chaos is everyone hates congress.
the situation in libya. this is quinnipiac. 41% approve, 45% disapprove. what is the president going to have to do here? as richard said, ak-47s will not get the job done. whether we siened in apache helicopters, it will matter whether it works or embroils us in something deeper. i think what you re seeing in the poll, american people weren t quite prepared to go into libya. in some ways, the limited nature of the engagement hurt it. it didn t seem like a present enough threat to necessarily require our involvement. there was a bit of we have two wars going on in the middle east already. we have a lot of problems here at home, why are we in there? at the end of the day, these things get judged on results. if the results are judged to be acceptable, he ll come out of this looking fine. what s your view? are you satisfied with the president s explanation that this is a unique humanitarian crisis that required american and international intervention