it will give that message in syria. >> i think the president debunked that last night f. gadhafi wins, obama loses. he cannot let gadhafi go back and retake this country or he's got a hellacious -- he started a war with libya and gadhafi and lost it? >> on to the budget. ezra, it's a good day to have you in. >> i'm more comfortable here. >> the obama administration remains confident that a deal can be struck on funding for the rest of this fiscal year to prevent a government shutdown next friday. let's stop right there. ezra, who wins, who loses if there's a government shutdown? >> we all lose if there's a government shutdown. what will probably happen is obama wins and democrats and republicans in congress lose. there's good evidence on this in the states. we've had 170 late budget schettdowns since 1988. basically what happens in a government shutdown or budget chaos is everyone hates congress.