chuck grassley, the worms, the go alongers, the people who must know at some level this is dangerous and awful and yet prostrate themselves in front of donald trump. so i do think that perhaps we who have been on the republican side once upon a time do have a little perspective. ask you re right, they on the republican side use values to hit the democrats over the head with you re anti-family, you re not patriotic, you re anti-police. all of this, of course, is nonsense, and is now directly applicable to them. and i love when joe biden gets down into the weeds of policy because i m a policy wonk, but that s really not the way to do politics in america. he really has to set a much higher bar and talk about his package as one that is pro-family, that is pro-democratic, that is pro-national unity and begin to talk in the language of values
because what is the path forward to get over these challenges you re describing here? i think there is a lot of hope. i actually the whole last part of the book it is my policy wonk of coming from the brookings institution but laying out the fact we know how to fix it and we have the capacity to do it. there are amazing things being done on the community and local level across the united states. my family in the u.s. is scattered across the whole country out to the midwest. when i go out to visit, there is energy, there is positivity about what they can do around their churches, around their local communities. people know how to fix things. what is getting in the way is the politics, and some particular personalities. america isn t just built up of rugged individuals doing their own thing. america over the centuries has been built up by people pulling together. and we can get collective action and i think the best way to do it is to start at the bottom, in your community, in your, yo
sounds like you do. could we have done it a bit differently, maybe we could. evelyn, what do you make of the response there from the prime minister? i think he s enjoying a really good moment in u.s./u.k. relations so he s not interested in being critical of president biden. clearly everyone agrees and i would say probably privately even president biden and his team agree that some of the withdrawal could have been handled better. but that s not the point right now. there s still business to be completed, rest assured. there are people i know personally in afghanistan who are waiting for charter planes to get permission to leave there, people whose lives are in danger. look, president biden it s funny because i m a policy wonk so it s very exciting for me every time a president gives a speech, even one that s considered boring. i like this one, because actually what president biden
about 75% of the way through all of a sudden i talked to joe biden few times and went to the beach house in delaware and grand kids swirling around when someone hand me a cell phone joe wants to talk to you and subjected to several paragraphs. jesse: when i give interviews i always invite the reporter to my beach house. karl, you know, it s not just that though. kayleigh, it s now that they have this profile and they are making her out to be something more than your traditional first lady like some sort of policy wonk or power player and i just remember that photography when she was over in air force one flying over to europe and she is did he big desk and she is working and got all these notes while kamala is down in central america trying to figure out what the root causes are i can t help but think there has got to be some sort of jokeying for position here in the hierarchy of the white house. seems that way. an insider tip that picture that