creation of isis. all right. that is not an overstatement. he can argue that hillary clinton s state department didn t diplomatically engage iraq and didn t diplomatically engage iraq to renegotiate the status of power and instead hands off let the country to politically crumble and that created more of a power vacuum for isis to take control. that is a real argument. in two debates and many times when it was brought up didn t have time to make the policy case that they really did have a role to play here. his sounds better. it sounds worse because the crowd loves it, but as an american president, our allies, our enemies, everybody is listening to every single word you say and precision matters. obama care. again, people don t like it. they re seeing their premiums go up. they don t see an end in sight. here s what trump says. we will be able to immediately repeal and replace obama care. have to do it.
only two years away depending when those iowa caucuses are, new hampshire, south carolina to follow. joe, thank you. let s get back to dana, gloria and ryan. let me go to gloria first. it looks like everything is falling into place at least at this early stage for hillary clinton. look, hillary clinton is off on her own, by the way, giving lots of speeches, not out there campaigning, but she certainly isn t in hiding. then she s got this other organization which is completely separate from her, starting to raise money, do what they want to do. so if you look at it, you have to say hillary clinton is running even though they re running on two separate tracks. she is not running this fund-raising organization but she is running her own schedule. if hillary clinton does run, do you think joe biden will challenge her? i don t think so. there s no case for biden getting in the race he is the sitting vice president. he is, but there s not a policy case. it s not clear what he wou
mom s lives. those people at the center of this debate making their case. joining us now is jose antonio vargas, he lived in the u.s. since he was 12. he didn t know he was here without documentation until he tried to get his driver s license. he s travelled the country talking about immigration reform. it s nice to see you. thank you for having me. you as a reporter and as somebody who s just a generally articulate guy, you ve been able to make the policy case from the beginning, but you made this decision personally to try to tell your personal story as a way of making the case. why does the personal part of this matter so much? it matters a lot, because i was inspired by people like ronada and carlos and evelyn. those are the three young people you saw on that fence. i was inspired by them. not enough credit can be said of the united we dream. this is one of the most
fighting for a change in the law that will change their own lives today. and that will change their children s lives definitely. and maybe even change their mom s lives. those people at the center of this debate making their case. joining us now is jose antonio vargas. he has lived here in the united states since he was 12. he didn t know he was here without documentation until he tried to get his driver s license. he s travelled the country talking about immigration reform. it s nice to see you. thank you for having me. you as a reporter and as somebody who s just a generally articulate guy, you ve been able to make the policy case from the beginning, but you made this decision personally to try to tell your personal story as a way of making the case. why does the personal part of this matter so much? it matters a lot, because i was inspired by people like ronada and carlos and evelyn. those are the three young people you saw on that fence. i was inspired by them.
mom s lives. those people at the center of this debate making their case. joining us now is jose antonio vargas, he lived in the u.s. since he was 12. he didn t know he was here without documentation until he tried to get his driver s license. he s travelled the country talking about immigration reform. it s nice to see you. thank you for having me. you as a reporter and as somebody who s just a generally articulate guy, you ve been able to make the policy case from the beginning, but you made this decision personally to try to tell your personal story as a way of making the case. why does the personal part of this matter so much? it matters a lot, because i was inspired by people like ronada and carlos and evelyn. those are the three young people you saw on that fence. i was inspired by them. not enough credit can be said of the united we dream. this is one of the most