mom's lives. those people at the center of this debate making their case. joining us now is jose antonio vargas, he lived in the u.s. since he was 12. he didn't know he was here without documentation until he tried to get his driver's license. he's travelled the country talking about immigration reform. it's nice to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> you as a reporter and as somebody who's just a generally articulate guy, you've been able to make the policy case from the beginning, but you made this decision personally to try to tell your personal story as a way of making the case. why does the personal part of this matter so much? >> it matters a lot, because i was inspired by people like ronada and carlos and evelyn. those are the three young people you saw on that fence. i was inspired by them. not enough credit can be said of the united we dream. this is one of the most