the investigation contributed to the mystery and conspiracy theory. the guardian is reporting that the discovery of the debris if it turns out to be the plane, the only way that plane could get where it was, it would have to be deliberately flown off course. their security expert says they would not have reached the search zone without human intervention. what do you conclude from that statement? i think until we get the body of the aircraft, one conspiracy theory is as good as another. we just don t know because the location of the plane doesn t tell you anything about theç motivation of the people who took it there. let s just be steady here until we can confirm that it s the aircraft and then if it s in 12,000 feet of water we re not going to get it any time real soon so we could still have a prolonged period here. ambassador john bolton with his expertise, thank you. if that missing jet did go down in the indian ocean
thing we heard. the only way to get it there is threub rat pilot deliberate pilot action. do you agree? yes. there is always that 10%, 20% catastrophic failure. the auto pilot would not have stayed on in a critical condition like that. the auto pilot when it suffers a lot of turbulence could be kicked off. when someone tells me there was a catastrophic failure of all the electrical systems, et cetera, et cetera, that airplane is not going to fly for another 1,000 or even 500 miles. that thing had to be guided by some human hand. it would not have followed it because once you went off that navigation system plugged in, the aircraft doesn t know where to goç anymore. it runs out of thought process. it s not programmed. but the person in there could program it without the nav. we have these two pieces of major size debris, 15 feet, one is 80 feet. i heard you would know better that 80 feet is
southern indian ocean that could be related to the missing malaysian airlines flight. but right now rain, clouds making it extremely tough. but it is a very different location than the original search area. so how would the plane have ended up there? joining us is pilot aviation expert and great resource for us during this whole crisis,ç j.p. we saw this plane last 4,350 miles from where it might be now. what questions do you now have? how did it get there, first of all? it made a turn after he made his last good night call which to me from the very beginning was the wrong pattern. that was not the pattern for a handoff from an aircraft that was supposed to go from ho chi minh control and return to pay king. how did he get there? using the navigation system. he didn t have to use that. he could have disconnected
mind every time i saw this and again, i had heard some news that this aircraft may have been carrying a shipment of lithium ion batteries in the cargo department. so there is a history of lithium batteries causing problems. and if it were as simple as a fire, which would have disabled acars and also the transponders, why did the plane wind up making a complete 180 from where it was going? one of the theories is had they turned around because of a fire and then had the smoke and fumes disabled the crew and essentially it would have been what geraldo was talking to us last friday about, essentially a payne stewart situation where the crew and passengers are overcome, they re knocked out and it simply keeps flying until it runs out of gas. but the problem with that theory is that the left turn was made they say a lot of times you make a turning to to the
down in terms of search. possible? absolutely possible. in terms of location here, prove it. as we ve seenth the satellite imagery that led toç this, to the initial search, it was ostensibly pieces of aircraft. it needs to be proven via surface and aircraft closer examination of this debris. once that s determined, excellent, we are off to the races. but guess what? get comfortable because it is going to take a long time to actually salvage this aircraft if it is in fact this aircraft. it takes weeks if not months to do this. i ve done this at sea, search for aircraft and then salvage. it is a long involved process. it is very difficult especially if things are at least 12,000 feet down. that is at the same level where they found the titanic. matthew, if we re looking at parts of the airplane, presumably the black box, the emergency beacon, would