12 30. Lets talk about the chances of chaplin becoming the permanent chief. We understand there is a search that is still taking place but what are you hearing, alex. Reporter sounds like the mayor is open to bringing somebody from the Police Department, but at the same time, theyll still go and look for a search, finding someone who is a perfect fit. They need someone who had continue the reform evident that were begun under police chief greg suhr to make reforms. Here, you have suhr who was just that, city Police Department, and here we are, five years later, he is dismissed because of his resignation. They need a fresh set of eyes. Chaplin, in talking to people, he along with chief suhr is very well respected. He has been with the department for 26 years. People feel as though he may be the person to help bridge the divide, if you will, that exists between the San Francisco Police Department and communities of color in that city. He has spearheaded many of those he was in the past.